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I Should Be So Lucky

One of the topics often discussed in Fantasy Football is luck and how much of a part it plays in the game. I wanted to discuss whether luck really does play a part and from personal experience what I would and wouldn’t call luck. Usually the question of how much luck plays a part is coupled with a percentage score. This is just an arbitrary number and doesn’t really hold any value for this particular question. As we know, whether luck is part of the game is just a subjective view that will differ from one Fantasy manager to another.

As with any game I feel there is an element of luck and there always will be but as Fantasy managers we can minimise the luck needed with our research, knowledge and way we decide to play the game. Isn’t that half the reason we come to use Fantasy Football Scout? To research our team, bounce ideas off of each other and ultimately use it to our advantage?

My own luck

When I think of times that lady luck has been on my side this season, two incidents spring to mind. The first was choosing Sergio Aguero as my vice-captain when he scored 19 points against Spurs, only for Diego Costa to not feature (who was my captain). And the second was playing Harry Kane vs Chelsea for his 18-point haul, a moment none of us will forget in a hurry.

In the first example I can see the argument for saying it was lucky. I didn’t choose Aguero but still got him as captain for his biggest total for the season. On the other hand I made the decision to place Aguero as vice-captain because I believed he would be the man for the job should anything happen to Costa. Is that good management of my captains or complete luck?

The second example is one of the more (in)famous occasions of the season so far, playing Kane against Chelsea for 18 wonderful points. Many consider those of us that played Kane that day as lucky, after all why would we choose to play a striker who was up against one of the best defences in the league? I agree that for a lot of people benching him was the right call but in my case it was never going to happen. At the time I had purposely set up my team (and still run it like this) so that I never have to bench my strikers. I have Boyd as my fifth midfielder and he will forever remain just that, a fifth midfielder used to warm my bench. Is it still lucky that I played Kane in this case? No, not in this case. Did I think he would get 18 points? Of course not. Up until that point however he had a fairly good run of points (2, 8, 8, 12, 2) and always looked like nicking a goal so while I wasn’t confident of a haul, I was certainly hopeful he could get something.

Benches – Luck or Good Planning

Another classic argument for luck being a big part of the game is people getting players off the bench. It’s incredibly frustrating when your rival gets Moses off the bench who has just taken a penalty you weren’t even aware he was allowed to do, I get that. This happened in Gameweek 26 for many by the way.

But at the same time your bench is chosen with the knowledge that at some point those players are going to play and hopefully will score you some points while they’re at it. Building a decent bench with players that are guaranteed to come in and play is part of the game, and as much as we sometimes don’t like to admit, it can make or break a Gameweek. You can use it in different ways.

One way is to have a strong bench of players ready to come on in your hour of need. Another is to have a cheap bench in order to enable a stronger starting 11. I don’t think either is luck based, it’s simply a tactical decision we make as managers.

Conclusions

I think I’ll finish by stating that there probably is an element of luck to this game, none of us can deny that and we probably need a little bit of it every now and then. I do think we can minimise the amount of luck required to do well and ultimately we are the main driving force behind how our team performs over the course of a season. Luck can only get you so far and to reach the heights we are all aiming for you can’t rely on it.

I’d be interested to know what you think. Does luck really play a major role in the game? Is there a rule change that needs to be put in to change this? Should we get rid of bench points and vice captains? Do people use luck as an excuse for their own shortcomings?

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  1. andy85wsm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Glad to see the amount of discussion this article has brought 😀

  2. buffrey
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I've been thinking about this overnight and Whilst there is LUCK involved, I don't necessarily believe it's the FPL players that are getting Lucky.

    If someone won the whole thing by selecting autofill and never changed it, that would be lucky, because it is blind. However selecting a player you think will do well, only to find he's blanking till the 90th minute where he pops up and scores 2 deflected goals, that's not really your good luck, that's his.

    If Luck was a stat we'd all be trying to get the luckiest players in our teams, but that wouldn't make us lucky, it would again make us sensible.

    All that being said there can still be some luck for the player (like confirming a transfer, but the website going down and then the one you were going to remove getting a brace, for example), but the selection, choices, bench, are all generally calculated and therefore only rely on the luck of the players involved as opposed to the FPL player themselves.

  3. Kerz
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Nice write-up, I agree with almost all of it.

    It was once said that "luck is probability taken personally". Success at a game like FPL is hinged on making informed, knowledgeable decisions based on information available at the time of said decisions. Many events happen that are out of our control - it is how we react to these events that determines our success, not just in FPL but in life in general. Don't let hindsight obscure future decisions and don't attempt to rationalize past events or blame yourself for things you could not have avoided.

    The probability of Costa not playing AND Kun scoring 4 in a single gameweek must have been astronomically low. Your treating of the vice-captain function as something essential was not luck but skill. Had Costa played a cameo and Kun gone on to still score 4, would you have been unlucky? No, because with the information you had before the gameweek Costa looked the stronger choice. Going with the stronger choice over the course of the season will result in success - heck, track the success of the FFS captaincy poll over a season vs. maverick picks. You'll notice that the maverick picks have spikes of success where they dramatically beat the logical, favoured option, yet also have weeks where they fail miserably in comparison to the favoured option. Over the course of the season the volatility of the maverick is no match vs. the stability of the favoured, despite higher variance. The wide difference "smooths" out.

  4. ChrisCross
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I agree with many of your thoughts, but I believe luck is a huge factor underestimated by many.
    I would turn it around: Skill can only take you so far in this game. The rest is luck.

    There are probably >1k people playing nearly optimal every season, and a lot of close decisions can go either way.
    If luck played a small part, then people that spent 30hrs + week analyzing would have a huge advantage and always finish above players that spent 30 minutes on saturdays morning.
    If you spend about 1-2 hours every week, you should have enough information to make almost optimal decisions. Every additional hour, gives you only microscopically added edge.

    So imo: two players playing equally optimal, could very well end up >100 points apart over a season. Probably more.

    1. ChrisCross
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Also, Im open to small rule changes. But like it or not, the luck factors are very important for the game.
      Should we get rid of bench points and vice captains?
      Nope, that would lead to skill playing an even smaller part.
      I would actually rather suggest that VCs gave 1,5xpoints, or something. Changes like more free transfers would be enjoyable.

      Do people use luck as an excuse for their own shortcomings? Most definitely.

  5. My own Personal Jesus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A good FPL player will pick, whether consciously or subconsciously, a team of players that are good/in form/have good fixtures that have a high probability of scoring good points in the next week. Luck plays a big part in week to week scores but skill will a average out a better score over the season.

    Where luck really makes a difference is captain choice, because of the double points. No one can pick for sure which of those players with a probability of good points is going to get a haul in any game week.

    What this means in terms of strategy is that if you want to play safe the best choice is to go with the most popular captain choice (in your team) but if you aware playing catch up then go for a differential as captain.