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How does Kai Havertz compare with Chelsea’s other FPL attacking assets?

Chelsea have continued their spending spree this summer with the acquisition of one of the most coveted young talents in Europe, Kai Havertz.

The attacking midfielder has signed a five-year deal with the Blues, following in the footsteps of Timo Werner (£9.5m) in moving to west London from the Bundesliga.

Arguably the club’s biggest statement since the signing of Eden Hazard from Lille, the German has been priced up at £8.5m – in a similar bracket to Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) – by Fantasy Premier League and has the potential to be a real bargain.

Anyone who dabbled in Fantasy Bundesliga this summer would have been excited by what they saw – including some ‘out of position’ run-outs up front – so we’ll assess his FPL credentials in the article below.

The History and Statistics

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKey passes/game
2016/17241451451.30.8
2017/18302141381.21.1
2018/193429011732.61
2019/203024621262.22
Average29.52238.89.05.51.81.2

Born in Aachen, Germany in June 1999, Havertz started out in amateur football at just four years of age for Alemannia Mariadorf where his grandfather, Richard, was club chairman. His father was a policeman and mother a lawyer so discipline was something that was impressed upon him at a young age.

It was his grandfather who encouraged him in his younger days, spending time with the youngster knocking down gnomes in the garden with his left foot. Richard’s passing when Havertz was just 10 led the German to join his first professional club, Alemannia Aachen.

He only spent a year with his hometown club, with a hat-trick against Bayer Leverkusen in an 8-3 loss impressing them enough to make them sign the youngster. He was highly sought after by clubs across the country, including Borussia Monchengladbach and Koln, but Leverkusen pulled out all the stops to sign the exciting prospect.

He notched seven goals and two assists over 23 appearances in his first season in the U17-Bundesliga West but the next season was where he really shone.

After scoring 18 goals, he was awarded the silver Fritz Walter Medal in the 2015/16 season after being named the second-best German under-17s player; two years later he won the gold in the under-19s category.

In October 2016, at 17 years and 126 days of age, he became the youngest debutant in Bayer Leverkusen’s history and later became their youngest scorer with a strike against Wolfsburg in April. 

He went on to become the youngest ever player in the Bundesliga to register 50 appearances. Coincidentally, the previous holder of that record was his new Chelsea teammate, Timo Werner. Havertz was also the youngest ever captain of Leverkusen.

After seven goals and 13 assists in his first two seasons, 2018/19 saw him become a household name in Germany with 17 goals from midfield, becoming the first teenager to hit that total in a Bundesliga season.

Nine of Havertz’s 17 goals gave Leverkusen a 1-0 lead and no player in the Bundesliga opened the scoring more frequently that season. Manager Peter Bosz’s attacking philosophy gave him a platform to flourish and he featured in every single game that campaign.

He took three penalties that season, posting an xG of 13.1 and a non-penalty xG of 10.9; this would indicate that he is a good finisher.

“I guess reading the game has always been one of my strengths. A certain composure on the ball and the ability to make the right choices quickly.” – Kai Havertz

Havertz started off the 2019/20 season by becoming the second-youngest player in Bundesliga history to score 25 goals with a strike against Paderborn on the opening day. He went on to register 12 goals and six assists that campaign with an xG of 9.1. Only one of these was a penalty, which meant his non-penalty xG was 8.3. Again, he outperformed his xG significantly and even upped his xA to 6.2.

Over his last three seasons, his non-penalty xG+xA per 90 numbers have been on the rise every year and he averages an expected goal involvement every other game over that period.

“If you can always be one or two steps ahead of your opponent, you can already win the game, and I think that’s just the player he is.” – Leon Bailey, Havertz’s teammate.

Comparison v other Chelsea assets

2019/20Mins/shotMins/SoTMins/KPSoT%Goals/shotGoals/SoT
Abraham25.263.5105.839.80.170.43
Mount25.652.6124.937.20.090.24
Giroud36.89956.348.70.210.42
Pulisic27.46957.540.30.150.36
Werner22.843.95344.90.180.38
Ziyech18.252.220.834.80.070.21
Havertz42.4584143.10.190.44

Unlike Ziyech, Havertz is not a volume shooter who takes a lot of speculative shots from outside the box: his minutes/shot is the lowest in the comparison.

However, a large percentage of the youngster’s efforts are on target (43%), compared to the Moroccan (34.8%). In fact, his goals per shot (0.19) is almost triple that of Ziyech’s (0.07).

What’s even more impressive is that Havertz scores with nearly half of his shots on target (44%) whereas Ziyech is closer to 20%. He even bests Werner, who has goals/shot of 0.18 and goals/shot on target of 0.38.

In terms of creativity, only Ziyech (20.8) created chances more frequently than Havertz (41) last season.

The Prospects

Havertz spent most of the 2019/20 season deployed as a no. 10, also featuring on the right flank and at centre-forward at times. Given that Ziyech’s preferred position is on the right wing and Pulisic has been effective on the left, Lampard is expected to use the German behind his compatriot Werner.

Werner is a very different striker compared to Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) and Tammy Abraham (£7.5m). As we saw briefly in the Brighton friendly, he works a lot more off the ball, similar to Roberto Firmino (£9.5m).

Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.0m), who was playing as a no. 10, found himself in the box very often as a result of the German’s link-up play and the 4-3-3 that Lampard prefers shaped up into a 4-2-2-2 in transition. Given Havertz’ goal-scoring instincts, the prospects are mouth-watering, to say the least.

Chelsea were second only to Manchester City for expected goals last season, so creating chances was not a problem and by adding an ice-cold finisher like Havertz to their ranks, the Blues’ goal output should go up significantly this season.

With Havertz having had zero minutes with Chelsea in pre-season due to international involvement with Germany, it is perhaps unlikely that Lampard throws him into the fray straight away against Brighton, with a cameo appearance most likely. His minutes should improve as the weeks go on and he settles in, however.

In terms of injury, he has a good overall fitness record with only the muscle tear he suffered in November 2019 causing him to miss more than 15 days out with injury. He has been unavailable for just six games over the past three seasons due to injury or illness.


Statistics taken from Opta, fbref.com and Whoscored.com

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  1. Dr. Rog
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    for the season

    Digne + Chilwell
    or
    Robbo + Saliba

    1. Boo Ya Ka Sha
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      A - because you can flip between Digne-Doherty and Chilwell-Tierney

    2. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      A

  2. Aurora Borealis?
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    God has grown tired of everyone’s pleas for help and therefore created…THE BIBLE

    On Day 1 God wanted to sort out his formation. He did not want people to say his team was “Bottom heavy” or “Light up top” so he created PERFECT BALANCE:

    Def: Premium – Mid – Budget
    Mid: Premium – Mid – Budget
    Fwd: Premium – Mid – Budget

    God had instantly filled 9 out of his 10 starting outfield positions while also reducing his formation options to either 4-3-3 or 3-4-3.

    To narrow this further he turned to his bench, whom he did not care for much, and cried “Thou shalt be minimal for the betterment of others”. And so, with defenders starting at £4m and midfields at £4.5m, a 3-4-3 was created along with a final uncategorised midfield.

    On Day 2 God had questions, “What was a premium defender? or a budget forward?”. God liked Joe’s idea of ‘price points’ but did not like the name and so he created PRICE RANGES:

    Def: P (£7.5m - £6.5m) M (£6m - £5m) Bud (£4.5m) Ben (£4.0m)

    Mid: P (£12m - £10.5m) M (£10m - £6.5m) Bud (£6 - £5m) Ben (£4.5m)

    Fwd: P (£10.5m - £9m) M (£8.5m - £6.5m) Bud (£6m - £5m) Ben (£4.5m)

    God also decided he wanted £4.5m and £4.0m GKs for he was wise.

    On Day 3 God had more questions, “Which mid-range midfielder or budget forward do I want”. He wanted players who had the easiest GWs so he used Skonto Rigga’s article to identify teams with FAVORABLE FIXTURES:

    Tottenham, Wolves, Fulham, Everton, Southampton

    On Day 4 God had a PLAN. He liked Lateriser’s Upside Chasing strategy and therefore wanted to prioritise premium > premium transfers, switching based on who had the best fixtures in the short term (2 GWs). If his premium players were already optimal then he could then look at mid > mid transfers and then finally budget > budget transfers. This approach therefore meant that his budget players needed to have favourable fixtures over a longer period than his mid players as they potentially would be in his team for longer. This would be the same for mids vs premiums.

    On Day 5 God began COMPILING HIS TEAM. He started with premium players. Based on the first 2 GWs Arsenal and Tottenham came out on top so God picked AUBAMEYANG AND KANE. For his premium defender he picked TAA as only Liverpool were in that price range.

    For his mid-range and budget players God had already identified the teams with the best opening 6 GWs on Day 3. He therefore picked DOHERTY, TRAORE AND INGS as his mid-ranges and VINAGRE, ARMSTRONG AND MITROVIC as his budgets

    God was never going to change his GKs so picked the £4.5m GK he thought would get the most points over the season. This was RYAN with NYLAND as backup.

    God had already mentioned on Day 1 that he would go minimal for his bench so picked MITCHELL, FERGUSON AND GORDAN

    This just left him with his 1 final uncategorised midfield and with £12m left he bought SALAH.

    On Day 6 God looked at Future Transfers. Per his plan on Day 4 he wanted to focus on premium players. The teams with players in the premium ranges were Arsenal, Chelsea, Leicester, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd and Tottenham. With 2xMids and 1xFwd, God decided to list the top 3 of these teams for each week based on easiest fixture difficulty:

    wk1 wk2 wk3 wk4
    Liv Mun Mcy Mcy
    Ars Ars Che Che
    Tot Tot Tot Lei

    God’s opening transfers would therefore be GW 2 (Salah to Fernandes), GW 3 (Aubameyang to Havertz). He stopped there as the beginning of the season always had the most uncertainly.

    On Day 7, Today, Sunday, God ended his work and he rested. He thanked everyone mentioned above for the work they had previously done and hoped his children would use these resources more often to make their own decisions. He reminded people that this was a snapshot of his team and was subject to change based on new transfers, injuries, Covid testing etc, however any amendments would still follow his fundamental principles he laid out in Days 1-4. God left never to be heard from again but with the hope that anyone still reading would consider his work going forwards. Amen.

    1. IT'S JUST JAMIE VARDY
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      IN GOD WE TRUST

    2. Moxon
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      God is dead

    3. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Great post. Made me chickle

    4. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      are you ok

      1. Amey
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        God bless him

    5. DMP
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      And then, Wolves bought another Left Back.

      1. Amey
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Check page number 172

    6. jtreble
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Template.

    7. sandman58
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      You've a lot a time on ur hands

    8. n-doggg
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Great post. Hilarious and surprisingly helpful

    9. Drexl Spivey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Shouldn't God be dealing with a pandemic?

    10. Brosstan
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      lmao I regret not reading this last time you posted it

    11. LikeItLoveIt
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Glory to be god and that. Surprisingly helpful all jokes aside hah

    12. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Funny and useful, thanks.

  3. King Kohli
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    How do you expect Leicester to lineup with Ricardo injured, Evans suspended and Chilwell moving on?
    Still think there could be some value to be found in the Lei defence

    1. Ser Davos
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Leicester had everything to play for, but there was nothing left in the end

  4. jimmyabs1987
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Team A:

    McCarthy
    Baldock, TAA, Egan, Dallas 4.0
    Son, Auba, Salah 4.5, 4.5
    Adams, Vardy, DCL

    Team B:

    McCarthy
    TAA, Justin, Egan, Dallas (4.0)
    Son, Auba, ASM, Salah (4.5)
    Adams, Vardy, DCL

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      B

  5. owenread
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    best 5.5m or less defender?

    1. Hattrick Harry
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      There’s only 1 really good defender at 5.5 Castagne, belgium national team RB who is the fastest defender in whole Premier league. You’re welcome.

      1. King Kohli
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Do you think he starts Gw1 without having trained with his new team?

        1. Hattrick Harry
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          He is in top top condition and 100% starts for Leicester

    2. Right In The Stanchion
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Tierny son

    3. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Tierney for the first 2GW’s

  6. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    New draft- ( plan would be Salah to Bruno week 2 and Aubameyang to KDB week 3 and Son can easily become Chelsea mid if not on form)
    Views welcome?

    McCarthy
    TAA Dier Justin
    Salah Aubameyang Son Saka
    Werner DCL Adams

    Button Vinagre Gordon Brewster

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I like it I have a very similar setup.

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I can only laugh at these selling Salah plans

      1. Dosh
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        That's why planning to not start with him at all.

        1. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          That’s certainly an option and may do that if captain Aubameyang

      2. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        If Salah plays well and hauls v Leeds would of course look at other options but as things stand would not captain in following few weeks - City/United/Chelsea better fixtures

    3. Henryyy
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      4 strikers

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        * oops Taylor not Brewster

    4. DMP
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Do you believe Saka is nailed?

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Yes think his place to lose

  7. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Ryan
    TAA Davies Vinagre
    Salah Auba Alli Soucek
    Werner Martial Adams

    (4.0 KWP Bissouma 4.0)
    0.0m

    KWP comes in for Martial GW1
    Salah to Bruno under consideration for GW2
    Auba to KDB/Sterling GW3

    If Soucek is not available for GW1 I'm in trouble. Thoughts?

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Like it. Soucek can be Ceballos if not available?

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Yes definitely considering him if Soucek is not available. Need to see how many mins he was getting post lockdown.

        1. thepuntmaster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Ceballos a good option.

          West Ham fixtures are so awful after GWK 1 too, so Ceballos might be a better option to have on the bench

    2. sandman58
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Why is Soucek not available?

      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Think it was COVID related?

  8. Nightcrawler
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Wow djokovic disqualified from us open

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Was what he did intentional?

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Nope

    2. Amey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Why

    3. Dosh
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      It was an accident but the woman was seriously hurt.

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Like tennis seriously hurt, not seriously seriously hurt

        1. Dosh
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Yea, players have been disqualified for lesser.

        2. Nightcrawler
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah....stupid tennis rules really. Imagine a football player getting red card for accidenlty hitting a ref with the ball

          1. Nightcrawler
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            I think there shd be a penalty but a match (and essentialy tournament) is too harsh.

    4. FPL Pillars
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      The Serbian world number one took a ball out of his pocket and hit it behind him, striking the female line judge in her throat.

      I felt that. Ouch!

  9. Threat Level Midnight
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Settled on this for gameweek 1.

    McCarthy
    TAA/Egan/Vinagre/KWP
    Mane/Auba/Havertz/AllI
    Kane/Adams

    Steer/Mitchell/Laminate/Brewster

    Thoughts?

    1. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Surprised you haven't got carpet

      1. In FPHell
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Still, better than linoleum

      2. H.E. Pennypacker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        🙂
        🙂

    2. Ser Davos
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      This looks very good

    3. Joss Ackland’s Spunky…
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Confident Havertz goes straight in?

  10. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Best option:

    1. Greenwood Bissouma Adams
    2. Havertz Ceballos Davis

    Thanks

    1. Mr. Mystic
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      1

    2. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      1

  11. Lav
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Auba Salah Son x x
    Werner Ings x

    Hard to fill out due to limited funds, want that so bad though.

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Would you be happy to have 2 4.5m and 2 4m defenders?

    2. HaffNanner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      McCarthy (4.0)
      TAA Vinagre Justin (Taylor Mitchell)
      Auba Salah Son Soucek (4.5)
      Werner Ings Mitrovic

  12. Amey
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    People whining about FPL post's.
    Lol what do you want ??
    Read ....
    Reply if you want to.
    Ignore if you don't.

    Peace out ....

    1. FPL Pillars
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Bunch of babes 😆

      1. Herman Toothrot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Schwing!

      2. Jekori
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        i thought there were mainly dudes on here

    2. Right In The Stanchion
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Bunch of wet Tory snowflake bedwetters

  13. CelticBhoy1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    How nailed is Ben Davies?

    1. FPL Pillars
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Get the nails and hammer out

    2. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Nobody has a more cramped schedule than tottenham. He's as nailed as he can be but I would still expect rotation due to the hectic schedule

  14. Mr. Mystic
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    0.5ITB
    McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA Dier Egan Vinagre
    Salah Auba Soucek
    Werner Ings
    (Greenwood, Mitchell, Gordon)

  15. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Nketiah or Mitro?

    1. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Lol ofc Mitro. Nketiah isn't nailed

  16. Pacer.
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    McCarthy
    TAA, Doherty, Baldock, Egan
    Aubamayang, Son, Barnes
    Kane, Ings, Mitro

    (Button, Bissouma, Stephens, Mitchell)... or whatever 4.5 mids seem best before next week

    1.5m itb for Son to Bruno if Son sh1ts the bed in GW1

    Hit me. Slate it

    1. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Barnes.

      1. Herman Toothrot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        (That's me slating it)

        1. Herman Toothrot
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Could always switch to Foden and play a sub

        2. Pacer.
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah. Built for options though, if Barnes OR Kane sh1ts the bed and looks rotten it's just a -4 to go Kane to Jiminez and Barnes to Bruno

          Seems unlikely Kane, son and Barnes will all backfire

          I got this

    2. The 12th Man
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      A lot of faith in Spurs.

      Set up looks good though.

    3. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Think you’ll find ASM or Armstrong better value than Barnes. Would rather stretch 0.5m and bench Greenwood

      1. Pacer.
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Not bothered about value as Barnes will either hit the ground running or be Bruno by within 5 games

        I marginally prefer

        wba BUR mci WHU AVL

        over

        whu BRI tot BUR MUN

        and just think odds of Barnes points in that spell are higher, a fair bit higher

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      You think my premium midfield, budget forwards strat isn't great and I think your premium forwards, budget mid one is bad 😛

      But in all seriousness, I do think your midfield needs help. Bissouma + Stephens is dire.

      Double SHU defense is really not advised. I think they're very overpriced. 4.5m there's good value. Downgrade Baldock and Egan and you can get at least one of Bissouma and Stephens upgraded.

      1. Pacer.
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        I've picked the team as carefully as possible so as to eradicate all known risks of rotation/dropping, Barnes aside

        Let's be honest, who has a much stronger bench than mine will end up being, which will be two rubbish mids who play. Strongest bench anyone will likely have is a 4.5 defender or a 5m midfielder if they're willing to bench money

        And we all know there's every chance that a better player will emerge that fills one of those three bench positions

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Disagree.

          If you have Soucek as 5th mid and some budget forwards, you can get a strong enough bench.

          I'd rather have a bench that is like Soucek, Justin, Mitchell vs Stephens, Bissouma, KWP for instance with equal cost.

          Basically the quality of my 1st sub is the more important factor.

          1. Pacer.
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            Well you need it. You have Vinagre, Justin, Soucek, Mitchell and Wickham

            Your midfield is killing your squad. Of course you're worried about your bench. You'll be using it

    5. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I like the structure and price points, similar to mine, I also have Barnes and no salah.

      Don’t like a double SHU def though, as a lot of their clean sheets were due to some unbelievable performances from Henderson.
      Baldock to Tierney IMO.

      Best of luck!

      1. Pacer.
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers. I'm going to go with the certainty of SHU players starting. We are only one or two clean sheets (tough against wolves of course) away from the entire community revisiting them and registering that 140 points for a nailed 5-5.5 is very good value. That's something I have much more faith in than hit and hopes like 4.5m Def's or ASM and soucek, who need to step up a great rather than maintain

  17. The 12th Man
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    How’s this with leaving 1.5m itb?with the option to upgrade Son >> Bruno or Ings >> Martial

    McCarthy
    TAA,Robertson,Davies,Vinagre
    Aubamayang(c),Son,Soucek
    Werner,Ings,Adams

    Button,Greenwood,Bisouma,Mitchell 1.5m itb

    1. Warby84
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Nice

    2. Warby84
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Dbl pool defence looks good, and I’ve tried a few but slightly weakens the rest .. Yours looks great, although pool attack has been sacrificed..

      1. The 12th Man
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Yeh I’m viewing my double Liverpool defence as my Liverpool attack.
        I’d be shifting Salah or Mane anyway after the first game so thought I may as well not start with either if I’m captaining Aubamayang.

        1. Warby84
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Aubameyang got a monster haul last time at the cottage so good shout.. I quite like your tactic, will you take a -4 for both transfers??

          1. The 12th Man
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            Probably not. It just gives me the choice to ship the least impressive player out of Son and Ings rather than be locked in to a definite choice.

  18. HollywoodXI
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Template is Son and Mitro. I have Kane and 4.5 mid. Have a gut feeling about Kane but the logic of choosing Son and Mitro is clear. Heart over head stuff.

    1. A-L
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Son and Mitro is more template but is also a more fun combo

  19. Lav
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Desperate for a Brewster PL loan

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Thought it was pretty much announced he’s staying until Jan window at least

    2. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Aren’t we all

  20. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Which combo to finish off this side?

    McCarthy - Nyland
    TAA - Egan - Saiss - Mitchell - Johnson
    Salah - Auba - Bissouma - ? - ?
    Mitrovic - Ings - ?

    A) Fernandes - ASM - DCL
    B) Zaha - ASM - Kane
    C) Zaha - ASM - Martial (1.5 itb for GWK2 Ings > DCL, GWK3 Salah > KDB, GWK4 Zaha > Fernandes)

    Thanks all

  21. Warby84
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Ramsdale
    Trent Doherty Davies Tierney
    Salah Aubameyang Soucek Ward-Prowse
    Werner Ings

    Button Bissouma Mitchell Davis

    1m itb

    Getting ever so closer to my final team

    1. The 12th Man
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      JWP as a 3rd MF doesn’t inspire me .
      Brilliant defence though and attack.

      Sacrifices have to be made somewhere so JWP might be that spot for you. So looks good.

      1. Warby84
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah agree, I’m not sure whether to go down the son route and downgrade Ings to Adams? Thoughts?

        1. The 12th Man
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Yeh that sounds good. That opens up the Chelsea midfield options later.

          1. Warby84
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah, Havertz on the watchlist, only issue was the plan for Martial.. If I did Prowse/Ings to Son /Adams I could only get rashford for free? Otherwise I would need to take a hit if I want Bruno..

  22. DMP
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    A) 3.4.3 With Saint-Maximin
    B) 4.3.3 With 5.0 or 5.5 Defender

    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Close, probably A. Few other options around 5.5 you van move to if you need

      1. DMP
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        I Think its easier to move arround 5.0/5.5 defender. Bellerin, Davies, WAN Bissaka, Dier, Chelsea.

        1. DMP
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Matip/Gomez

  23. Strchld
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    How she looks?

    McCarthy (Button)
    TAA - Dier - Vinagre - Egan (4.0)
    Salah - Auba - Son - Ceballos - (4.5)
    Werner - Ings (4.5)

    Plan would be:

    GW2 Salah and Ings > Bruno and Martial for a hit
    GW3 Auba > Sterling or KdB

    1. Vazza
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Very nice

      1. Strchld
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks

  24. panda07
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Finding it very hard to decide on which Chelsea players to pick.

    Reece James in defence could be great if he nails down his place at least for the easier games. Very attacking and I can see Chelsea tightening up at the back a bit this year.

    In midfield I'd like to have Havertz but I can see him being eased into the team like Pulisic was last year.

    Ziyech is also an option but coming from the Dutch league to the EPL can be a big step up although he has been good in Europe.

    Pulisic - injured

    Werner looks good but 9.5m is a lot to spend on a forward who I'd rarely captain given the premium options in midfield.

    Chelsea players are potentially underpriced. Who are you picking and why?

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      If you know you’re going to wildcard early then just wait and see how the lineups go. Think they will be a little like Man City with heaps of rotation and frustration especially with champions league starting so quickly

    2. Phil's Stamps
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Starting with Werner as he's the focal point of a very attacking team and his price makes him easy to switch to others if not performing. The other's are a wait and see for me, and the mids are at awkward price points for the squad I want to start with.

    3. A-L
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Triple up looks inevitable but I'll be patient and just make sure I'm doing the triple later down the line

  25. Nightcrawler
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Werner is a very different striker compared to Olivier Giroud and Tammy Abraham . As we saw briefly in the Brighton friendly, he works a lot more off the ball, similar to Roberto Firmino.

    1. Nightcrawler
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Does that make him a bad pption then

      1. A-L
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        While he may be more similar to Firmino than those 2, they're still not the same player. Think he's quite versatile, can carry out that role too but also has a proven record of scoring.

  26. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    If someone could please share the right amount of money to spend on total DEF MID FWD that would be awesome.
    Struggling with these price points!

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Might as well ask for GK as well and then have us build a whole team for you 😛

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        I was including GK in the total DEF category ha
        Can’t find a lineup & structure I like so far.
        It’s funny how much you can overthink this game...

    2. Blueberg
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Can't put an exact price, but I guess it is something like:
      Gk: 8.5
      Def: Trent and around 20m
      Mid: about 45m
      Fwd: about 20m
      Spread the remainder where you think best.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      There's no right or wrong. 34/66 feels fine if you think funds are best employed in the front 8 to begin with.

  27. MikeRyko
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Evening folks, I've got an exciting one for you....Any thoughts on Jonjoe Kenny?

    Seems to be playing and returning in pre season. I seem to recall Coleman being in and out of the team at the end of the season so thinking its possible that Carlo isn't too keen on him.

    1. The 12th Man
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Might be going back to Shalke for another year on loan.
      We are looking at getting another rb in to rival Coleman.

      1. n-doggg
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        You think Coleman’s ‘nailed’ seems good value at 5.0

        1. The 12th Man
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          He is club captain. Think it’s his to lose but he’s not the player he was before his leg break.
          I’d hold off and see who EVERTON buy.
          As it stands I’d say Coleman 75% nailed. Kenny 25%

          If Kenny goes then Coleman will only be nailed if we fail to bring anyone in.
          Just a note, Holgate can be used at rb too but is likely to be first choice cb.

      2. MikeRyko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers hadn't see that. Out he goes. Was trying to find someone more interesting that Taylor but its proving difficult.

  28. Phil's Stamps
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    With the latest virus numbers I'm starting to take heed of those warning a decent bench may be needed.

    How would you upgrade these jokers with 2 mil?
    (Currently playing 5-3-2)

    Bissouma, Stephens, 4.5 forward.

    Should I go with the obvious Mitro and Souchek and play 4-3-3? (Been trying to avoid Mitro at all costs. Ayew?).

    1. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah a strong bench seems like a good idea.

      I'd also like to know what the criteria are for a match to be postponed.

  29. Vazza
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Dier or Davies and why?

  30. n-doggg
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Ceballos going to get any minutes?