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Should Fantasy managers ever ‘triple up’ on a team?

The 2014/15 FPL champion, Simon March, asks if owning three players from the same Premier League club is advisable.


Fantasy Premier League has seen plenty of iconic duos: Carroll and Barton, Drogba and Lampard, Vardy and Mahrez, the list goes on. These are players who, while playing in the same team, both managed to score substantial points and frequently combined to score those points by assisting each other’s goals. If you had both in your FPL team at their peak, chances are you were doing well. Everyone loves a good double-up.

But what about triple-ups? They’re popular, too, but is it really a good idea to select three players from the same team? That’s the question I’ll be discussing this week.

Among the few firm rules that I rigidly observe in FPL is this: ‘Never triple up on a team who are likely to finish mid-table or below’. I learned this lesson in the 2015/16 season when my title defence was upended early on by my now-curious decision to Wildcard in three Swansea players (though, in my defence, this was a popular move at the time) just before they went from surprise early-season title candidates to winning just two games in their next 17. In my opinion, mid-to-lower table teams will rarely, if ever, sustain the form required to justify owning three (non-bench fodder) players or, indeed, they would not be mid-to-lower table teams.

While I’m unlikely to be talked out of this position personally, the question of whether tripling-up on any team is a good idea is more controversial.

On one hand, you have the philosophy that, if a team tends to score more goals than anybody else, and/or keeps more clean sheets, as per Liverpool or Manchester City in the past few seasons, it’s a good idea to have as many players from that team as possible. There is no doubt that, at times, this is a good move and, those who do time it correctly will no doubt profit as a result. Where such a team has a Double Gameweek, there’s even more reason to believe in the potential of a triple-up.

There are, however, a few problems associated with tripling up with players from the top teams. Firstly, it tends to be expensive. Man City may, for example, score more goals than most teams this season and they might also keep more clean sheets, but to triple up on them could cost 25-30%+ of your overall budget. At that point, the question is no longer just: ‘Will they score me enough points?’ It becomes: ‘Will the rest of my team be good enough to compensate if they don’t?’ There’s usually a good chance that a savvy FPL manager can find similar returns for less if they shop around.

The big exception to all of this is when a team who were expected to be mid-to-lower table end up performing really well throughout the whole season. The most obvious example of this phenomenon is 2015/16 title-winners Leicester from which you could purchase three of the highest-scoring players in the game that season for roughly the price of a McDonald’s Happy Meal. Of course, such teams are most notable by their rarity.

Why else could tripling up be ill-advised? One suggestion lies in the mechanics of how scoring occurs in football generally. A player scoring is always the product of their own ability to score, their team’s ability to provide them with opportunities to score and their opposition’s ability (or inability) to stop them from scoring. However, there is also a temporal aspect to this equation. A match only has 90 minutes (or sometimes 100 minutes if you’re a certain Manchester-based club…) and, thus, your triple-ups are sharing that time between them. They cannot all score points at once even if two combine for a goal and, therefore, their ability to score is naturally limited. This might not be a problem if the team they play for scores loads of goals every match, but history tells us that this is not sustainable over time, even for the very best teams. Players and teams go in and out of form, fixtures become more difficult and, when you triple up, all three of your players are affected by these same conditions.

This issue may be less true of defenders as clean sheet points are attributed equally across a defensive line. However, as a result of this, their point-scoring potential is interdependent, one goal conceded affects them all. Over a long enough period of time, this might not matter in terms of points scored (i.e. Liverpool defenders may keep the most clean sheets in total over a season) but, again, this raises the question of value for money and, particularly, whether the funds tied up in expensive defenders could benefit your team more if invested elsewhere, or by being more liquid.

How Liverpool's defensive assets compare after their FPL price changes

Finally, while some believe that having multiple players from a single team means they are likely to get some points whatever happens, the opposite could actually be true. Because they share many of the same conditions, teammates may be more prone to rotation at the same time (e.g. ahead of a big Champions League match), illness (think Spurs and ‘Lasagna-Gate’), expected or unexpected match cancellations (…sigh), tough fixtures or even just teams losing form, as even the best ones will sometimes do. Tripling up will always compound these kinds of risks.

In conclusion, while I am not personally a big fan of tripling up on players from a single team, I can see that there are instances when it can pay off, if timed correctly. There are also exceptional circumstances where it can be a practically essential, no-brainer, value move (e.g. Leicester 15/16) to have three players from the same team. Tripling up in a Double Gameweek or Blank Gameweek may also be well worthwhile and, finally, some of the limitations that apply to attacking players in a triple-up may not apply as much to defenders, making a defensive double or triple-up arguably more of a viable move. 

However, by virtue of the players all sharing the same conditions and constraints on scoring and the typically high cost of tripling up on the best teams, the practice of tripling up in FPL will almost always be a higher-risk strategy that, as a result, is less likely to pay off over time than a broader and more flexible strategy.

In my eyes triple-ups are a lot like buying an expensive goalkeeper; it makes sense at the time, they’ll probably score you some points, but give it a few weeks and you’ll always start to think whether you could be doing something better with the money.


Simon is a former FPL world champion, claiming the coveted price in 2014/15. But there is more to this man than one season of good fortune. Since 2009, Simon has finished in the top 7k four times, only ending up outside the world’s top 60k once in an 11-campaign career.

2,478 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Scholes Out For Summer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Play Coufal or Brewster?

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Coufal

    2. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Coufal maybe

  2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Cancelo to Reguilon for a hit?
    If I don't do it, I'm likely to field 10 men unless both Riedewald and Neck start.

    Reguilon suits my team better than Dias because I can easily bench him for Liverpool and other than the fixtures are actually decent especially for the next 2 and will be turning soon as well, also nailed and has more attacking threat.

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      *Neco

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah do it

    3. Sulley
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      You have to be certain of a clean sheet to make it worthwhile!?

      1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah but I would be using a transfer to get rid of Cancelo later anyway so it even saves a future transfer

        1. Sulley
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          If you are gonna hit at some point soon then worth doing now to take a shot. If you can avoid the hot I would wait until next gw

  3. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Cancelo dropping really surprised me. It will suprise a lot of people if Pep starts him

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Not that surprising, given that City has two games a week.

  4. OneDennisBergkamp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    cap DCL or Bruno?

    1. Bojam
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Bruno for me.

  5. mlm
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Martinez* (Martin)
    Walker Chilwell Zouma (KWP Mitchell)
    Salah Bruno Mahrez(c) Ziyech Jota
    Vardy(vc) DLC (Brewster)

    0.0ITB, 0FT (-4)

    Hope work well

  6. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    James > Mahrez for a -4?

    1. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      I wouldn't for a hit.I wouldn't for a hit.
      Whose your (c) now?

      1. Disco Stu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        KDB(C) Bruno(VC)

  7. Sulley
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    So.... do we think Sterling is starting tomorrow?

    1. Sulley
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Not sure whether to bin him for a hit to Mahrez or hold on and hope for a miracle

    2. Mondeo
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Don't think so but can't bring myself to sell for a hit

      1. Sulley
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Can’t handle another 11.5m player getting 0 haha

      2. Sulley
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        You have Sterling too? What’s your thinking?

        1. Mondeo
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          If I do anything it'll be Salah in but every move I make this season is wrong to be honest.

          Assume the 'correct' move is to leave him in there and shrug my shoulders with a 1 pt cameo.

        2. Mondeo
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Pretty sad about the whole episode to be honest, brought Sterling in GW3 thinking I'd be ahead of the swing.

          Now look at me

    3. Begbie.
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      I own and am transferring to Bruno regardless next GW but now I'm thinking I'll do it this GW.

      Pep: "Riyad Mahrez scored three goals against Burnley and tomorrow he’s going to play. Because he scored a lot of goals. The guys who score goals are going to have more chance to play. The guys who don’t make mistakes behind are going to play..."

      Torres scored last week as well and was subbed early midweek. Can't see where Sterling fits in. Seems to be that Pep's words there are a thinly veiled dig at guys like Sterling who've been grossly underperforming. I only seen a bit of their game midweek but did, unsurprisingly, see Sterling miss a sitter when one on one with the keeper.

  8. Mile Plankton
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Come on, support me on my Dani Ceballos punt. 🙂

    1. Bojam
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Run that past me again?

      1. Mile Plankton
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Selling Jeff Hendrick to a mid up to 5.1
        A) Soucek
        B) Dani Ceballos
        C) Hojbjerg
        D) 4.5 mid (Romeu, Anguissa, Bissouma)

        1. Bojam
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Dullard me says Soucek is the man in that price bracket. Always looks dangerous from crosses and set peices. But, with Joe Hart rumoured to be starting tomorrow, maybe Ceballos really is the man for the time.

    2. Sulley
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Haha love it! Will be watching closely tomorrow

  9. Uncle Gamst
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Does the following look ok?

    GW11 Soucek > Jota
    GW12 Kane > Wilson & Son > Salah -4

    Think Son & Kane (if he's fit) could do well against Arsenal. Then moving them out to fund Salah (C) v Fulham.

    Thanks

    1. Sulley
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      As long as Newcastle actually play

  10. steven8991
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Cancelo to Reece James for -4? have Zouma as well

    or keep Cancelo (1st sub is Bissouma)

    cheers

  11. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Capt kdb or mahrez

    1. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      KDB.
      Owning Mahrez is enough of a differential.

  12. Sz21
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Think this is it.for the WC.
    Grealish in for Mahrez in 2/3 weeks probably.

    Any tweaks? Had Lamptey/ Grealish instead of Webster/ Mahrez but fancying Mahrez now.

    McCarthy.
    James, Chilwell, Webster.
    Jota, Salah, KDB (c), Fernandes, Mahrez.
    Welbeck, DCL, Bamford.
    Forster, Bamford, Dallas, Mitchell.
    0.0m ITB.

    1. Sz21
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Messed this up.

      McCarthy.
      James, Chilwell, Webster.
      Jota, Salah, KDB (c), Fernandes, Mahrez.
      Welbeck, DCL,
      Forster, Bamford, Dallas, Ferguson.
      0.0m ITB.

  13. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    I like how Pep contradicts himself. He basically says that rotation is necessary to ensure everyone is on their toes, ready, fit and on form, and he just wants everyone to feel involved, and then says that he plays the best team every game and doesn't select players based on recent playing time. Fraud!

    1. The Knights Template
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Bald too.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Lmao

    2. FantasyHero
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Both those statements could be true. He just believes all his players are top notch!
      Just saying

  14. Esalman
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Is it sensible to do Ziyech > Mahrez for free this week and Mahrez > Salah the next? Have KDB and Jota already.

    1. fish&chips
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      If no other fires it seems like a good option

      1. Esalman
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        I have playing 9+ Brewster and Nico. Was gonna get Salah eventually.

  15. Bob B
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Martinez (Forster)
    Chilwell Lamptey Dallas (Lewis Branthwaite)
    Salah Sterling KDB Son Jota
    DCL Bamford (Brewster)
    2FT, 0.3ITB

    Best Martinez replacement for 2 weeks?
    Or find 0.2 so that I can upgrade Forster.

    A. Johnstone
    B. Kelleher
    C. McCarthy
    D. Downgrade somebody

    1. fish&chips
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      I wouldn't spend 2 FTs bringing Martinez in and out. Leeds fixtures are good going forward after Chelsea though so you could go for messlier and stick with him for a while

  16. fish&chips
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Forster -> Johnstone for free? But probably means I'll have to take a hit either next week or the week after.

    Decent chance of a clean sheet or save points and even if he concedes it will likely only be a -2 with future hits considered. Will give me a second playing keeper for the festive period as well. Thoughts?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Just save up 2 trades

  17. seewhyaxe
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Hello dz,

    Those without a City attacker, who you captaining this gw?

    1. Royal5
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Bruno. Son VC

  18. kumadinya welah
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone considering welbeck? Good fixtures, no competition as maupay injured, priced under 6m, decent returns since he started playing

    1. Sz21
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      In my WC side. Starting him this week but will be cover mainly I think. Much better than the 4.5m options.

  19. Royal5
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Is there a chance thw new villa game goes through this gw?

    1. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      No

    2. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Nope

      Due to festive calendar- it’s probably a January/February party now

  20. Tsparkes10
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Gtg? 1FT 0.1 ITB

    Mccarthy
    Chillwell Coufal KWP
    Son Bruno Mahrez Podence
    Werner DCL Vardy
    (Nyland,Greal,Konsa,Mitchell)

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      GTG

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Captain bud? Mahrez? I’ve got it on him as of now, but nervous but exciting!

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Yup Mahrez. Same feeling :/

        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Cool, I was wavering but gonna stick to it, best of luck man!

  21. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Is Reguilon worth the extra over Dier?

    1. Bojam
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Possibly. What can you do with the extra cash is you go Dier?

      1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Not much in the short term really, maybe later on something like Watkins to Wilson or Vardy to Kane possibly (not sure I'll be doing that though)

  22. FPL Doctor
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    What do do? 0 ITB 1 FT

    Martinez*
    Justin Dias Cancelo James
    Salah KDB(c) Jota
    Bamford DCL Vardy

    Steer* Soucek Dallas Grealish*

  23. FantasyHero
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    1. Dallas (che)
    Or
    2. Coufal (MUN)

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      2

    2. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      1 for me but I am playing both due to Grealish being blanked

  24. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Who would you captain from this lot guys?

    A) Salah
    B) Bruno
    C) Mahrez
    D) Son
    E) Vardy

    Depending on how things play out, I’m doing Mahrez to KDB next week, so gotta go for broke with Mahrez captain surely?

    Cheers chaps

    1. leroybrown84
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      E

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers man!

    2. Begbie.
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      I'd personally play the percentages and go Salah or Bruno but Mahrez has the highest haul potential and Pep has already confirmed he'll play so if you're leaning that way it's a safe enough pick.

      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Confirmed he’ll play?

        1. Begbie.
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          "Riyad Mahrez scored three goals against Burnley and tomorrow he’s going to play. Because he scored a lot of goals. The guys who score goals are going to have more chance to play. The guys who don’t make mistakes behind are going to play..."

        2. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Yup

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers man! Yeah I asked this question with perhaps already a tendency to cap Mahrez, seems logical enough for such a fixture. West Ham could stifle United, and Wolves could do the same for Pool, but counter arguments for each I guess.

    3. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      A

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers bud

    4. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      C

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks bud!

  25. leroybrown84
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    why no love for Vardy (c) all but one of his goals have come away from home and sheffield are shocking at the moment - could have a field day!

    1. Begbie.
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Not a bad shout but Leicester ain't playing too great either and he's a bit penalty reliant, imo.

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      I do feel he’s a decent pick, but back to back losses will play a part and Sheff Utd may just fancy their chances in this one. Still though a very sound pick

  26. Dthinger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    How does Leno + Lascelles to Johnstone + lamptey sound?

    1. Begbie.
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Nice. Welcome to the Lamp club 🙂 such a fun player to own.

      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Wish I’d had him before he was 4.8

    2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Not worth it imo unless if on WC

  27. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    What's the latest on Kane? Likely to play?

    1. Begbie.
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      According to Jose, yes.

    2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Should play

    3. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Cheers all

    4. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Playing

  28. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Ziyech to Jota going to be a popular move after this week yeah?

    1. Begbie.
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Has the Ziyech hype train died already haha? He looks like he's always going to be central to everything Chelsea do creatively so I'd personally hold a bit longer.

      1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah it seems to have, I'm deffo keeping for Leeds but another blank and I think there will be mass sales especially with Jota vs Fulham

      2. Camino Aleatorio
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Fickle crowd. If Ziyech, Bamford, and DCL don’t deliver. Tidal wave of Out-Transfers to the next hot hand.

        Mahrez brace crashes FPL website

  29. llmja
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Watkin+Son to KDB+Bamford (-4)

    or

    Watkin to Jesus

    Thank you

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      If you prefer to have Bamford over Watkins long term then the first one

  30. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    North London Derby predictions? Decent chance of a Spurs CS you think?