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The Technical Area – Firmino’s Opening Gameweeks

Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. Ci Siamo
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    Just want a bit of WC help please, got 2.8 ITB and managed to get...

    Fabianski---Elliott
    Mee--Jones--Dunk---Cedric--Suttner
    Pogba---Brady--Chalobah--Eriksen--Antonio
    Firmino----Morata----Lukaku

    Gives me the option to upgrade to Kane or other big hitters in midfield if needed. Thoughts?

    1. how now brown cow
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Would want either mane or salah.

    2. JONALDINHO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Morata to Chicarito, Antonio to Alli, Brady to Salah

      1. Ci Siamo
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Thanks guys

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        How does Morata to Chicharito enable those two moves? 😆

        Lukaku to Chicharito, maybe!

        1. Ci Siamo
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Because I have 2.8 ITB 🙂

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Is it still affordable? Brady is only 5.5m and Antonio is 7m, isn't he?

            1. Ci Siamo
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 25 days ago

              I have managed to tweak it enough but not sure double Liv is essential vs City?

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 25 days ago

                I have Firmino and Mané and am very happy with it. You could even go Mané and Salah and rake in those 5pt goals.

  2. thepeen555
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    90 mins for Kane to tire him out, shame he didn't do much so probably still quite well rested

  3. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    Predictions for the Everton-Spurs and Stoke-Man U games?

    1. Meppelfield
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      0-1, 0-0

    2. thepeen555
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      2-1 Everton
      3-1 united

    3. The Wanton Trader
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      1-2
      0-2

    4. Ospina Colada
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      1-2
      1-1

    5. JONALDINHO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      1-1, 0-1

    6. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      1-1
      0-1

    7. Twisted Saltergater
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      1-0
      0-1

    8. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      0 - 0
      0 - 2

    9. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      0-1
      0-2

    10. Costaplenty
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      1-1
      1-1

    11. Goat
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      1-2
      0-2

  4. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    Quality Engalnd cap earned there for Livermore

  5. Epic Fail
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    Terrible from Livemore. Didn't touch the ball all game.

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      😆

    2. thepeen555
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Waste of space lol

    3. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      He still did more than Ox

  6. Costaplenty
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    No panic.

    England win.

    Harry is god,

    1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      hopefully a slightly lower priced one by next week

  7. Cok3y5murf
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    Kane dreadful. Price drop please

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      This

    2. Ode
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Do you still want to get him after that?

    3. Pieterke30
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      How did he play tonight?

      Couldnt watch the game

    4. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Not gonna happen 😆

  8. Syd.
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    Northern Ireland have more points than France

    1. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      To be fair, Northern Island haven't got to play the mighty Luxembourg!

      1. how now brown cow
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Damn!

        1. Business Cat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          😎

    2. how now brown cow
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      They haven't had to play Luxembourg

    3. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Says more about NI than France tbf.

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        That Pulis's West Brom core team could beat Pogba, Griezman et al? 😉

        1. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Definitely 😀 Would struggle against Luxembourg though.

  9. Mika-eel
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    What made you decide to follow a certain team? I remember watching Grobbelaar as a kid in the 80's and thought he was super man. Tried to catch Liverpool just to see him play. He was so flamboyant and made the game a joy to watch.

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Remember when I was a kid Michael Owen was my favourite player after his goal vs Brazil so Liv fan

      1. Mika-eel
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        When I think of Owen it's always about "that" goal he scored against Argentina.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Fair enough, I was only 4 then 😛

    2. KingNidge
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Grobbelaar was a nutjob lol

      1. Mika-eel
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Agreed Nidge, but fun to watch as a kid. Maybe not so fan as a fan watching the game.

        1. Mika-eel
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          *fun.

        2. KingNidge
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Ah for sure.. pure entertainer and a fantastic goalkeeper in his day too

          1. Mika-eel
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Think Rene Higuita has to be the bigger nutjob of the 2.

            1. KingNidge
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 25 days ago

              He was off his rocker on grade A Columbian pure cocaine every time he took to the field i reckon

              1. Mika-eel
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 25 days ago

                All we have now is Rooney and his drunk driving making the news. Sad times.

    3. Double Pivot
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Spurs. Grandfather said they played the best football. Hoddle......nuff said. Remember them buying Ardiles and Villa. They were second division then - people forget that!

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Banging choons too 😉

        https://youtu.be/1KEMMfV5-Qg

        1. Mika-eel
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Ha. Brilliant! The 80's, what a time it was.

    4. Ode
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Arsenal's style of play, and my uncle

      1. Ode
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        And Henry

        1. Mika-eel
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Aahh, what a player. His goal against United against Barthez will always be a favourite of mine.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Where he chipped it up and sliced it into the top corner? Bit jammy. He scored plenty better!

            1. Mika-eel
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 25 days ago

              It's fair to say he scored alot special goals. Would love to watch a compilation of Henry and Le tissier goals.

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 25 days ago

                Le Tissier scored some ridiculous goals. To think the ball was a lot heavier compared to what's used in the PL now.

                Shame he didn't like to run much 🙂

    5. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Zidane somehow led me to Arsenal personally (I always knew he didn't play for them to be clear) 🙂

      1. Mika-eel
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Zidane was majestic. Had to end his career with a headbutt, but what a way to go,lol. Will never happen again.

    6. Twisted Saltergater
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Where I was born.

    7. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Kevin Keegan and Ray Clemence ruled the field when I grew up, so had to be Liverpool

    8. bojack
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Any support their local team here and not Liverpool? 😆

    9. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Hughes and Keegan in the 1977 European Cup Final. YNWA.

    10. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      My mates all supported the usual suspects, but in my class the main protagonists were Fulham and West Ham. I was five at the time and everyone kept saying I needed to choose a team, choose a team, blah blah blah.
      I got fed up of them constantly linking me with a certain team or other I just told them whoever won the FA Cup that year I would just go with them.
      They thought I was some kind of miracle worker when that year the Cup Final was Fulham v West Ham and fank feck West Ham won 😆

      1. Mika-eel
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Good thing it wasn't the 88 FA cup final. Apologies Wimbledon fans,lol.

        1. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          😆
          Looking back at some of the Cup Finals from 1975 onwards, I'm kinda glad it was the Hammers! Could have been Southampton (1976), Man Utd (1977), Ipswich Town (1978) and well everyone knows the 1979 Final lol

  10. Rainer
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 25 days ago

    Captain Kane locked in. Sell at your peril! 😛

    1. MTPockets
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Sold. Gd luck.

      • Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Say hello to the fellow 2m OR rankers.

    2. JONALDINHO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Bottomed
      Foster - (Elliot)
      Bertrand - Stephens - Suttner - (Ake) - (Long)
      Eriksen - Mkhitaryan - Willian - Carroll - (JWP)
      Kane - Lukaku - Firmino 1FT 0.5ITB
      A)Save
      B)Ake to Jones
      C)JWP to Brady
      Keep in mind price drops

    3. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Best straight swap for KDB? Currently on Alli

      1. JONALDINHO
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Depends on rest of your team. Alli/Eriksen,Mane/Salah, Hazard

      2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        As good as any. Alli/Eriksen/Mane/Salah all good.

        Utd mid if you want to spread the love with spending elsewhere

        1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Already got Kane and Firm up top so I guess it's a case of which team to double up on

      3. Professor Abel X
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Yes presuming you have a Liverpool mid or Firmino already

    4. CloudSky
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Now to beat England at Wembley. Shouldnt be that hard really.

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Seemed hard enough...
        England 2 Slovakia 1

    5. Hobolicious
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      The Wembley-effect strikes again. Kane will only score away to "home" this season. Easy captain against Everton!

      Jokes aside. He was not great tonight, but still considering him as my captain.

      1. how now brown cow
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Playing skrtel with hair probably confused him

    6. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      A nice reminder on that Halifax advert that Raheem Sterling runs in exactly the same way as Velma from Scooby-Doo 😆

    7. Sickboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Any playing strikers other than Abrahams for £5.5m or less?

      Cheers guys.

      1. CloudSky
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Joselu, Ayew, Okazaki at the moment. Calvert Levin was playing until gw3.

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          This

      2. The Wanton Trader
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        I've got Joselu in my W/C team..
        I think he will be decent..

        1. Sickboy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Cheers for that

        2. AllanM
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Joselu stats are promising

    8. Ser Davos
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Please stop with this "England have only been poor since the inception of the Premier League".

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v_England_(1950_FIFA_World_Cup)

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Who said this?

      2. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Millennials - gotta hate them

      3. Alexis Nonsense
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        They were poor prior to that too...

      4. *sigh*
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        With respect my original statement suggested England are unlikely to win a competition in the structure we have in the Premier League era.
        Put simply we are pishing in the wind.

        1. Business Cat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          ...don't say that. We could do a Greece 2004 one year 😉

          1. Now I'm Panicking
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Go bankrupt and leave the EU? Will happen very soon.

            1. Business Cat
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 25 days ago

              Well played 😎

    9. Mayo for Sam
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 25 days ago

      Who's a better option long term for the next 5

      A Bavies
      B Bertrand

      1. MTPockets
          7 years, 25 days ago

          b

        • The Orienteer - find me in …
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          B

        • G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Barring injuries, B all day long

      2. Alexis Nonsense
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Foster/Elliott

        Trippier - Alonso - Jones - Fernandez

        Mané - Alli - Mhki

        Chicharito - Firmino - Morata

        Bench: Mbemba, 4.5, 4.5

        4.1 ITB

        Anything worth a hit?

      3. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Kane at -94.5

        1. Pieterke30
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Won't drop before Friday morning, if he drops at all

          1. Numb
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Yeah, doesn't look like he's dropping now. He will if he blanks the next game though

        2. Business Cat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          He's been there for over a week...never tips into the price drop.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            They underestimated WC use.

        3. Alexis Nonsense
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          a lot of WC too, so won't affect price

        4. Fantasy Gold
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Kane might as well be price-locked

          1. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Bye bye Kane......hello Firminio

        5. Twisted Saltergater
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          They never let the expensive players in the game drop in price 😕

      4. migas2k7
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        and kane blanks again.... and yes it is already september.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          He's not going to score every single game that's not in August?

        2. Pierce34
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          He hasn't been great in past Septembers either.

        3. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Seemed to me like he was saving himself for the weekend. He gave us a little taste of what’s to come in the match against Malta, but decided to stay quiet in tonight’s game, wanted to stay under the radar I think. Everton will have been watching this game, and they probably won’t even think to mark him at the weekend. He’ll explode.

      5. ratski
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Foster, Elliot
        Davies, jones, Cedric, naughton, mbemba,
        Eriksen, salah, pog, Carroll, mahrez
        Luk, morata, Abraham

        A. Abraham and mahrez (or other 8.7 mid)
        B, firminio and 5.8 mid?

        1. how now brown cow
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          B

        2. the snazzy viking
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          B but have Alli instead of Eriksen so you can get the extra 0.1 to get Ritchie in

        3. AllanM
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          B

      6. Matt
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Would you rather have Cedric or Jones on the WC?

        1. how now brown cow
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          The one who hasn't let in a goal yet.

          1. Jairzinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            True fact. But Southampton have kept two clean sheets out of three. Neither team has been challenged yet, I’d expect both teams to be a bit leakier in the next few weeks.

            1. Lawrø
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 25 days ago

              As opposed to those pesky false facts! 😀

              1. how now brown cow
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 25 days ago

                Facts and truth no longer hand in hand in this trump era.....

            2. how now brown cow
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 25 days ago

              True. The only reason I've had a half decent start is bailly-jones-stephens.

              Saints have had great fixtures and cedric more attacking, but would have more faith in Utd long term.

        2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Jones

      7. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Kane ripped me for some good money

        https://snag.gy/PCs31d.jpg

        1. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Got rid of Kane before double price drop.....

        2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Sta pogodi alal ti vjera...jbg

          1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            a tuzno jbg

      8. Qaiss
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Alli getting a ban in the Premier league do we think?

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Why would he?

          1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            middle finger

          2. Numb
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            If they deem it serious and he gets a general football ban?

          3. Now I'm Panicking
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            He got his nob out and did the helicopter

        2. Differentiator
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Lol! Desperate times call for desperate measures, eh Arsenal fan 😉

          *assuming you are

          1. Qaiss
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            I have him in my team mate... That's why I'm asking 😉

        3. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Definitely - a room is getting readied in Broadmoor as we speak.

        4. how now brown cow
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          No

        5. Business Cat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Should have put some winding action on it:
          https://giphy.com/gifs/QGzPdYCcBbbZm

      9. Kalou
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 25 days ago

        Your all on a wc, but you can only choose one!
        A.Lukaku
        B.Kane

        1. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Kane

        2. Qaiss
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          A

        3. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Kane. The stats are better, I'll have him after this GW (perhaps even after a drop in price).

        4. MTPockets
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Top of page 7

        5. Numb
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Could Alli potentially get a ban that affects FPL for his one fingered salute to the ref?

          1. Differentiator
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            Lol good luck proving it was at the ref.

          2. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            I've got him in my draft team and yes they could unfortunately

        6. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Jees!

          The Kane sellers have got all that money to spend now, I bet they get all my players.

          1. Costaplenty
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            🙁

        7. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Which 2 to get rid first?
          A) Willian (lei)
          B) Agüero (LIV)
          C) Kompany (LIV)

          1. Qaiss
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            B and C

          2. Costaplenty
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            b + c

        8. FPL_Hazards
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 25 days ago

          Alli ban incoming

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 25 days ago

            He'll be banned from CL games and now international games, lol. Should be a lock in for FPL.