Opinion

The Burning Question: How much stock should we put in pre-season?

With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    hi DZ, don't be gentle, tell me what you really think about this:

    Schmeichel - Butland
    Lescott - Cedric - Huth - O'Shea - Francis
    Hazard - Walcott(c) - Ozil - Ritchie - Westwood
    Rooney - Kane - Pelle

    much love.

    1. White Hart Kane
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Risky captaincy and defense a bit shaky

      1. White Hart Kane
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Otherwise good

      2. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I purposefully went cheapo defense to stack the attack since the BPS system now favors the cheaper teams more than before

    2. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Westwood and O'Shea aren't guaranteed starts

      Ritchie and Francis are very meh

      Rest is fine.

      1. sinik
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        why don't you like Ritchie and Francis?

        O'Shea can go to whoever..Westwood can easily be Bentaleb or Wanyama..just picked him because I thought he was nailed and on some set pieces

        1. Ryan
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          4.5 price range is awkward so do you best to get a nailed on mid that won't drop in value. I've personally decided to go for a 5 option with upside who I may start on the rare occasion.

          Just not keen do double up on Bournemouth despite fixtures. This isn't the championship anymore and they will struggle. You can get better options with that money.

          1. sinik
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            9 years, 1 month ago

            would you prefer to keep Francis and ditch Ritchie then? not a lot of budget room, thoughts?

            1. Ryan
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              9 years, 1 month ago

              I think budget is the problem. Both might need upgrading. Or at least one of them.

              1. sinik
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                9 years, 1 month ago

                so you also think I need to downgrade my front line to free up room?

      2. Acquafresca
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        Westwood is nailed this season.

        1. Ryan
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          Not with new signings he isn't

        2. sinik
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          9 years, 1 month ago

          you sure?

      3. Jinswick
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        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Morning Ryan, any insight into the SUN defence? O'Shea more nailed than Coates/Kaboul due to captaincy?

        1. Ryan
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          9 years, 1 month ago

          I think Coates is the most nailed on.

    3. Coldplay
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      I love the front 8. Replace Ozil with Mane and you have mine. Didn't decide on the 4.5 mid yet. Defence a bit risky, but could well work out

      1. sinik
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        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I think I'll be doing Wally > Mane when Sanchez returns

    4. Acquafresca
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      O'Shea > Coates.

      Rest looks solid.

      1. Jinswick
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        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Is that based on Baps potential or do you think Coates is more nailed?

        Struggling with this one myself, but edging towards O'Shea as he's captain.

        1. BIG TONES
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Popular option states that Coates is most nailed.

      2. sinik
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        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        cheers Acqua..O'Shea could be any Sunderland since they're all the same price bar PvA

      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      looks fine, Westwood at 5th mid is one I've not seen before but who really cares on a 5th mid.

      1. sinik
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        he'll probably end up being Bentaleb or Wanyama in the end

    5. Scab
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hey Sinik,

      Hope all is well on your end.

      I personally dont like Butland and dont see stoke picking up many CS, i suppose he is the best option for 4.5 though.

      I like your strikers but im a bit tempted to say that downgrading either Kane or Pelle can be an enabler to drastically improve your defense.

      Not too keen on Ozil + Walcott combination. my arsenal midfield pick will be cazorla.

      1. sinik
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        cheers SCAB, likewise hope all is well with you

        who do you have at keep?

        I could do the striker bit but I'm banking a bit on the BPS system making up for things as it will benefit the worse teams more this season

        Walcott is a punt for now and will become Mane when Sanchez is back, not necessarily set on Ozil, may do Rambo instead

    6. Test Eagles
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      Love the front line, mostly love the midfield (Ritchie unknown), backline is a little light, but that funds the front 8 so all good!

      8/10

      1. sinik
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        🙂

    7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      2/2
      0/3
      1/3
      2/2 = 5/10 Not very good. Imo. Silly spending, upfront.

      1. XaviDodgers
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        New to the site, can you explain this scoring system please?

          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Personal rating system on

          Goalies
          Defence
          Midfield
          Forwards

          to give a score out of 10.

          1. XaviDodgers
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers, seems pretty straight forward when you explain it like that

      2. sinik
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        because I don't have Sakho? who do you think?

      3. sinik
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        who do you suggest Doos?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          9 years, 1 month ago

          It's just the budget - everybody is spending FAR too much on strikers, imo. It's comforting, but still stupid, imho.

          There is a good thread on the next page ...

          Goalies: Schmeichel /Butland

  2. Butters_lfc9
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    9 years, 1 month ago

    Thought on which to go for

    A)Ritchie and Sakho
    B)Deeney and Henderson

  3. 11bigboy11
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know how Deeney and/or Wilson did preseason?

    1. Captain Peacock
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      9 years, 1 month ago

      Preseason tab at the top of page

      1. 11bigboy11
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        9 years, 1 month ago

        thanks

  4. Valar(Keith)
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    LR i replied on previous page.. check. got to leave now(5 mins ago actually) .. Later LRiser

  5. White Hart Kane
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best two defensive options for 4.5?

    1. Test Eagles
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      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      You won't find many players on the market for 2.0 or 2.5 🙂

      Sorry!! I'd say Huth, Francis / Distin, O'Shea, Richards.

      1. White Hart Kane
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ha ha. Cheers, I'm tossing up Francis and O'Shea do you have a preference?

        1. Test Eagles
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          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Probably O'Shea as their fixtures (IMHO) are slightly better for the first few GWs and he' proven at Prem level ... still a few uncertainties about the promoted teams!

    2. Ninja Škrtel
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      huth & francis

  6. ONTHEGEAR
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    ok this is my team.....I think I will win the whole thing ??? thoughts ???

    PANTILIMON

    JAGIELKA MERTESAKER CLYNE

    STERLING OZIL DEPAY FABERGAS

    BENTEKE RONNDOG PELLE

    cheers

    1. BIG TONES
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      My ears.

  7. 11bigboy11
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Coates and Huth

    1. White Hart Kane
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Coates over O'Shea?

      1. 11bigboy11
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Seems to be the trend on here over the last few days after he didn't start a game. Probably just resting him but who knows.

  8. TigerJK
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What do you think of this lot?

    Ruddy / Butland

    Azpi / Clyne / Williams / Huth / Saylor

    Haz / Sterling / Ozil / Mane / Barry

    Rooney / Lukaku / Deeney

    +0.5 ITB to do Lukaku -> Tekkers after GW1 or some other early bandwagon.

    I'm generally feeling settled but can make minor changes like:
    - Change the 4.0 def
    - Change the 4.5 mid
    - get Theo instead of Sterling - in any case this 9.0 mid and Rooney (except they score really good) will be sacrificed for Aguero and a ~7.0 mid

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think there is better value than Clyne at 5.5. Both Sterling and Walcott are good picks.

      You could also downgrade Mane to 5.5 to get kun

  9. Deadwood
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    ok, just signed up - any comments or thoughts on team would be much appreciated;

    Krul
    Clyne Cedric Azpi
    Chadli Silva Hazard Milner
    Benteke Rooney Pelle

    Bench is mince - Schwarzer Steven Taylor Bentaleb Baker
    Not sure about Chadli for game week 1, maybe swap for Nasri? Not happy with Krul as keeper either but can find where to drop 0.5. Maybe Cabaye for Chadli and better keeper?

    1. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd choose a better keeper, if I was only going with one. Don't like the idea of two potentially non-starting defenders. The rest looks good.

      1. Deadwood
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers, I take it you mean Clyne and Cedric - thought they would have been starters for sure?

        1. Coldplay
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          No, the ones at your bench. Downgrade one of your mids and upgrade your defenders and/or keepers.

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Chadli is probably better than Nasri. You could just go down to Ritchie though, get a good keeper and also improve your bench.

      1. Deadwood
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks - yeah thought a lot about Richie but not sure if he'll make the step up to the Prem... I can see Bournemouth struggling big time. Any thoughts on Cabaye?

  10. Captain Peacock
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Should I still get Hazard seeing as I'm not going to captain him for the first 12 weeks (by which time I'll be wildcarding)?

    1. White Hart Kane
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Who will you captain for those 12 weeks

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Mane, Rooney, Rooney, Kun from there.

          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I like Mane first up

    2. Eboue
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      U wot

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You heard me!

    3. Arvin-ation
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      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers. Reckon Fab is worth the spot?

        1. Arvin-ation
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          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Nope. Prefer Mane to him. Don't think he'll do well without Costa either.

    4. Scab
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      just based on ownership it would be risky not to have him

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers. It's a good point, but I'll wildcard early if need be

    5. Nickofoz
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      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nope. Only worth having if you'll captain him IMO

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers Nick!

      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      God no, see Ruth's value article. Players at 10.5+ aren't worth it if you're not captaining them at least occasionally. If there were a spell where i wouldn't captain Aguero I'd probably sell him on too.

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Fair poi y. I had better read this article. Thanks!

        1. Captain Peacock
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          *fair point

          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          That said in Aguero's case it'd have to be something like playing away at Stamford bridge four weekends on the trot 😛

          1. Ruth_NZ
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            ...yes and no. I think people tend to be obsessive to the point of irrationality about Aguero. "If he's fit I must have him, no matter what, even if it means wildcarding to make it possible".

            I remember last season many people blew their winter wildcard early to get Aguero back after injury, despite the fact that he had played 11 minutes in 6 weeks, was highly unlikely to be 100% fit and had Arsenal and Chelsea in his next 2 games. When challenged about this they said the inevitable price rises made it necessary but that was just a thin excuse for a lack of critical thinking really.

            He managed 1 assist and 0 goals in those 2 games and his price rose 0.2 before the 3rd game (when it made far more sense to bring him back). 0.2 was not a big deal at that stage of the season when most had a TV around 105 or 106. Whereas blowing a wildcard early - well that's a real loss.

            That's the kind of lack of perspective people tend to have about Aguero. He's not essential on a blanket basis although he probably is essential for certain games.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 14 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Not sure that this is entirely fair, Ruth. 🙂

              1. Ruth_NZ
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                OK. "Tend to", "many people" and so on doesn't cover me? 😕

              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Cool rant about others, but personally I waited. I can see why they did it though after 2 games, 36 minutes and 2 goals at the start of the season vs Newcastle & Liverpool.

    6. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No.

      It's possible that you'd be making a mistake by not captaining him however. 😕

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Possibly. But I like the alternatives I posted in response to White Hart Kane

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Sure. I agree with you, no Hazard for me either. But it's a judgement call, there is no right or wrong answer.

          1. Captain Peacock
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers Ruth! Hopefully it works out for the both of us.

    7. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks everyone who commented

  11. PalaceInWunderlahm
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMT please! Any suggestions on what to spend my 2.5m in the bank on? Plan is to save for a Rooney-Aguero upgrade:

    Ruddy/Butland

    Bellerin / Cedric / Huth / Coates / Jenkinson

    Hazard / Walcott / Henderson / Ritchie / Sinclair

    Benteke / Sakho / Rooney

    1. BIG TONES
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Probably spend it on Aguero next week.

  12. S.Kuqi
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    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Have 0.5 to spend. Which option looks best?

    A) Sinclair (5.0) to rotate with Sakho

    B) Cedric for Shaw and play Sakho despite fixtures

    I'm still bit unsure how Soton defence with cope with their player losses (Schenei,Clyne,Toby,Forster)

    1. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Though I love Shaw, Sakho might score away, so B

      1. S.Kuqi
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        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks captain.

        Sinclair could also easily blank in those gw1,4 fixtures and then I end up with 5.0 mid for nothing.

  13. Scab
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Goodmorning DZ.

    Pick one please

    A. Lukaku

    B. Kane

    C. Pelle

    D. Benteke

    1. Braydos
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. S.Kuqi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      First gw1: Lukaku

      Mid term: Kane

      Long term: Benteke

    3. sleecc
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  14. UpAndAway
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is 3 Bournemouth players too many? Francis, Ritchie and Wilson.

    1. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      What do you think the response will be here? You know its too many

    2. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That's a no-brainer ... 3 players from the promoted teams is probably too much matey!

    3. sleecc
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Other than DGW, I've never had triple players from any teams, let alone a promoted team.

    4. Home Run Baker
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      For the season it's too many. But B have a good run of fixtures to start, so OK for now.

    5. Rider on the Storm
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      3 are too many imo

  15. Cocky Spaniel Alves
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Morning good people.

    How does this baby look?

    Courtois (Hennessey)
    Koscielny Azpilicueta Gomez (Huth Targett)
    Hazard Walcott Mane Chadli (Wanyama)
    Rooney Benteke Sakho

    1. Deadwood
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks solid. I'm not sure about Walcott - I've had him in my team then out - can't decide. Not sure if he'll get 90 mins

      1. Cocky Spaniel Alves
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Well I had Özil before but reading the comments from Jonty (I think) about him being the mist prolific FPL point scorer in the entire league made me think I should get him.

        Not sure yet mind.

  16. jaredwilliams
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    a) Courtois + Hennessey + 4.5 def

    b) Butland + Ruddy + Jenkinson (no CHE defenders)

    1. Cocky Spaniel Alves
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Due to no Chelsea defenders, I'd go A.

  17. Nesvy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hi all,

    a/ Wilson
    b/ Vardy

    Thanks 😉

    1. S.Kuqi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      o/ Vardy if you think he is nailed to start

    2. SomewhatPleasing
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Who knows until we see if Bournemouth s form translates at a higher level. Not sure Vardy will be nailed under the new regime. At least Wilson looks set to start.

  18. abhirup780
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Migs(Hennessey)
    Kos Azpi Williams (Huth Oxford)
    Haz Mane Sterling Milner (Wanyamma)
    Rooney Kane Wilson

    0 ITB ... Please opine

    1. S.Kuqi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks really good but no Arsenal is huge minus imo. They have best starting fixtures from top5 clubs.

      1. abhirup780
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Haz to Sanchez on the cards.. I feel Sanchez will be a must when fit. If Haz underperforms it will be a straight transfer.

  19. The Train Driver
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    6 seasons and 292 games in both Manchester United and Real Madrid.

    118 goals and 1 hat-trick in United, 302 goals and 29 hat-tricks in Real. That is 0,4 vs 1,03 average goals per game.

    Conclusion: La Liga is shite or Ronaldo has improved A LOT or a bit of both?

    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Bit of both

    2. Siva Mohan
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ronaldo has improved A LOT

      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      both and he has better players around him in a formation that's built to get him goals. All contributing factors really 😛

    3. CarelessGenius©
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Played as a striker at RM.
      Would be interesting 2 see him come back to Prem.

        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        LVG will just put him CM if he goes back to united though 🙄

    4. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      We Know you like Troll Football page in FB

    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      La Liga is shite.

      1. Puyol Pants Up
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        It only looks bad because of how good Barca + Madrid + Atletico are.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          - which is why it is shite.

        2. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Nah, it's the gap between those and most of the others that make it look bad.

          Chelsea have proven themselves to be close to Barcelona in capability over the last 10 years. I don't say they are as good but Chelsea are a team Barcelona don't relish playing one bit.

          However Chelsea have a far harder time in the PL than Barcelona ever do in La Liga where they have, maybe, 6 difficult games to face in a season.

  20. Skipdipper
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Morning all, would really appreciate honest assessment of my team below...

    Schmeichel Schwarzer
    Gomez Richards Kos Cedric O'Shea
    Ritchie Haz Sterling Ramsey Depay
    benteke Kane Deeney

    Thanks!

    1. BIG TONES
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Defence is a no from me.

      Downgrade Depay and improve Gomez and O'Shea

      1. Skipdipper
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Will have a tinker..

    2. S.Kuqi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      - Your gks are good. Best 8.5 gk combo imo

      - Your defence is bit "meh". Gomez is just transfer waiting to be happen but he starts first 2-3 games he will be first bandwagon of the season

      - General consensus here is that O'Shea has comptetion with Kaboul. Coates should be safer.

      - Midfield is terriffic but I would choose Mahrez,Sinclair, Lens instead of Ritchie

      - Rooney is must have imo but I think you will do ok without him. Brave move to not have him.

      1. S.Kuqi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        and Wilson over Deeney. No stats to back up so play fixtures

      2. Skipdipper
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cool. Rooney in for Kane then and depay downgrade do say Milner or Henderson?
        I went deeney as on penalties and would rotate him and Ritchie?

        1. S.Kuqi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'm not saying that its right move to have Rooney instead of Kane but Roopig as a lone striker for 10.5 is bargain imo.

          Depay to Milner would be my choice.

          Just don't like Deeney's fixtures. I would rotate Mahrez and Wilson and if I had them I would probably play AOA chip in gw1.

      3. Skipdipper
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Isn't oshea captain?

  21. CarelessGenius©
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A. Both Leicester Goalkeepers
    Or
    B. Both Crystal Palace Goalkeepers
    ?

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      None

    2. BIG TONES
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      LEI

    3. sleecc
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A, unless you plan to WC soon.

      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks. I like Lei early fixtures until the tight cheapo options become clearer....

  22. King H
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Chadli and Benteke
    Or
    Henderson and Kane

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      CB

    2. Skipdipper
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Henderson and Kane

    3. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      HK

    4. OReiMessi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      C & B

    5. King H
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2-2 who's gonna win it ?

  23. Puyol Pants Up
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I haven't changed my team for over a week now, not sure if its a good or bad thing...

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I haven't changed it in 2 weeks

      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      good thing, you're thinking it out behind the scenes rather than smashing in any old combinations

      1. Puyol Pants Up
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        The only thing left to decide for me is Fabregas Vs Sterling. Majority of the community think Sterling is a better pick.

  24. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    My Current Mids & Forward:

    Depay // Ozil // Mane // Lens // Sinclair
    Aguero // Costa // Deeney

    Now the question I want to ask is:

    Is it better to go for a 4.5m Mid...just to avoid bench headache? not knowing which exact player to play as anyone can explode any day and regret having points lying on bench?

    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ok 2 have a 4.5m mid if u have a securer 4th defender....

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I have all Secure Starters...I never take Non-Starters in my team

    2. Puyol Pants Up
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, it is.

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        thanks! was thinking the same!

    3. Slash
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Personally If you're going with 5 MF's- I'd Go with a rotation 4th and 5th mid.. Like Doos for example is using Ki and Mahrez..

      Or you could rotate Deeney with Ritchie for example

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Rotation in Attack is a big headache

    4. BIG TONES
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1) Yes imo
      2) What is your defence considering the front 8 you have up there?

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        1) Thanks!
        2) My Def is 6m / 5m / 5m / 4.5m / 4.5m

        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          keepers 4.5x2

        2. BIG TONES
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Looks good to me. I'm sure you will also have your Aguero plan in place as per

    5. S.Kuqi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lens - tell me more. Considering him if I decide to go top heave team.

      Atleast his fixtures are great.

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        He is their Marquee Signing and has good Fixtures...worth a punt!

        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        http://www.triggerlips.com

  25. bennyp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Guys can you please help finish my team "Internet legends"

    Higuita
    Jones - Kolarov - ???
    Barton - Frimpong - ??? - ???
    Zlatan - Heskey - Lord Bendtner(c)

    1. Al Bundy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sasha Grey? Dont use her in defence though, she isnt getting a lot of clean sheets

    2. CarelessGenius©
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm not helping finish any team with Barton in it....he's a c**k.

      1. Test Eagles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        ^ this

    3. BIG TONES
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If it's hypothetical, the Cherno Samba surely gets a start up front.

      1. bennyp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Could play 4-2-4?

    4. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Denis Stracqualursi or Royston Drenthe

  26. Najoman86
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Azpi, Kos or Bellerin to start the season as the premium DEF of choice?

    1. Siva Mohan
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      order.. Kos/Azpi/Bellerin

    2. sleecc
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Azpi

  27. Siva Mohan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    considering the new rules.. would Azpi be a BAPS magnet?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No. And he and his owners were already exceptionally lucky, last term.

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        This! Kosc will be a real Baps magnet though...

      2. Siva Mohan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        by choosing Azpi I would be looking at only CS points.. choose Courtois and save 0.5 then .. good plan?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          No. Ivanovic or nothing for me. Unless Rose comes ...

    2. Najoman86
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I would imagine so. I've had Azpi since the first draft, alongside one of Kos/Bellerin - but may look to cull Azpi in order to free up some extra funds - by way of selecting a 5m DEF option with a favourable start to the season

  28. jaredwilliams
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Final thoughts on this team before I go away on holidays!

    Courtois - Hennessey
    Mertesacker - Cedric - Alderweireld - Jenkinson - Huth
    Hazard - Sterling - Ozil - Henderson - Wanyama
    Rooney - Kane - Jerome

    I'm a Norwich fan so wanting to take the punt on Jerome with their good fixtures!

    Cheers for any thoughts!

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      You have spent unwisely, in defence, imo. How is Mulumbu?

      1. jaredwilliams
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Had an op. so will be out for the first 5 or 6 I'd say.

        What do you think I should do in defence and where should I put that money?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Koscielny, Fonte, Williams, Bassong, 4.0

    2. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mertasacker to Koscielny and Alderweireld to Martin for me. Otherwise a pretty decent team.

      Don't you think there's a chance Neil prefers Grabban to Jerome though?

  29. Siva Mohan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Confirmed: Kane signs three-year deal with Chelsea!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Old news.

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Source?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks. Bugger.

          Means my Falcao thing is over ...

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Oh! You cheeky sod!!! 😛

          1. Siva Mohan
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            ha ha

  30. S.Kuqi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    If Hazard blanks in first 2 his price might drop to 11.3-11.2. Casuals will sell him to fund Aguero or jump on to Sanchez train.

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      that will happen