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The Community Round Up

The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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2,626 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Ramsey, shocking conversion rate. I would be very concerned If I had him in my team right now.

    It's a shame as his positioning is very good, he is young with much ti learn I hope Wenger can coach him to improve his finishing. Then he can develop into one of the best players for the club

    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      That is typical Ramsey tbf

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Very unfortunate.

        It's the one thing that lets him down

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      He's 7m.

      Pretty good value for a top team.

      Doesn't have to Messi

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Maybe but if he wants to keep his position as a starter he needs to finish those chances

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Good point tbf

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            A broken clock is right twice a day 😉

            1. Now I'm Panicking
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              😆

    3. Wings Fan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      He's 27 before the end of the year. Hardly a spring chicken

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not going with him at present but he is a decent option, and he is hardly a terrible finisher - he managed double figures in all comps in successive years not so long ago. His confidence was shot in front of goal last season, and he needs the right formation to work.

        Imo - Ramsey with wing backs is a good option, as he will have the license to get forward in an attacking team.
        Ramsey in any other formation is less attractive, because he will be more restricted and more likely to be rotated. I'd prefer Lanzini or Zaha in this case. It goes without saying, imo, that Willian is comfortably the best 7.0 for the opening weeks.

  2. chaboi1998
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Is rashford going to start?

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Better and better chance at two up top with Rashford's form

  3. Ninja Škrtel
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    De Gea, Elliot
    Luiz, Ake, Lindeloff, Rangel, Hunemeier
    Dele, KDB, Ramsey, Willian, Loftus Cheek
    Morata, Jesus, King

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      De Gea and Lindelof is too much.

      Get Joe Hart and get some Spurs coverage they're essential despite any slow starts and the Wembley factor

  4. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Repost for bottomed.

    Cheeky RMT at half time, think I've cracked it.

    Fabianski.
    Trippier. Daniels. Cedric.
    KDB. Eriksen. Willian(c). Zaha.
    Lukaku. Morata. Defoe.

    Sub: Nordy. Carroll. Dunk. 4.0.

    Double Chelsea for BUR

    1. Swanremainsthesame
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      You'd captain a 7.0 when you have 5x players more expensive on the pitch ???

      1. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        On this form Willian is playing like a 10mil midfielder.

        1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Preseason mate

  5. goriuanx
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Firmino pulling out his Brazilian skills there.

    1. Syd.
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Scratching his pubes?

  6. unlethal
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    A)
    Foster
    Tripper / Cedric / Daniels
    Alli / Coutinho / Sane* / Willian / Carroll
    Kane / Lukaku

    Myhill / Mee / Fletcher* / Hunemeier

    B)
    Foster
    Tripper / Cedric / Daniels
    Alli / Coutinho / Willian / Carroll
    Kane / Lukaku / Defoe*

    Myhill / RLC* / Mee / Hunemeier

    1. ImTheDude
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      B

      1. unlethal
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        There is in A

    2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      No city?

      1. unlethal
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        There is in A, reply fail

        1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Ah missed Sane

  7. ImTheDude
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    A. Jesus and Sane

    B. Lukaku and Willian

    1. unlethal
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      B

  8. Atimis
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    No City team, good enough ?

    Foster
    Trippler Cedric Daniels
    Salah Willian Redmond Phillips
    Kane Kaku Laca

    Elliot Dunk Carroll Rangel

  9. Andy_Social
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    With this seeming consensus re premium strikers, what about this with ONE premium striker (helluva midfield)

    3-5-2

    FORSTER, ELLIOT 9.0
    TRIPPIER, BERTRAND, CEDRIC, DUNK, SUTTNER 25.0
    ALLI, SALAH, MKHI, WILLIAN, ZAHA 40.5
    LUKAKU, RASHFORD, GAYLE 25.5

    [nb for the few Saints games I'd drop Bertie/Cedric, Brighton are ideal replacements]

  10. Mark
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Today's new additions added to RMT and projections just now.

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Cheers Mark 🙂

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      thanks Mark.

      Can you look at Mertesacker's projections? they seem about half of what they should be....?

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        so says a perfect source

      2. Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        We have him behind Mustafi and Holding for starts. You think he'll be more likely?

        1. Syd.
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I think you have misinterpreted this 😉

        2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          \apologies, Mark. He's bench fodder at best. I was persuaded otherwise by an imbecile. Sorry

        3. Waxys
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          He's ahead of Holding

          1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            No.

  11. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    1-0 Slimani

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Fuchs assist.

  12. Fantasy Gold
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Slim Shady great header

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Love the nick name

  13. goriuanx
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Slimani 1-0. Liverpool concede from a cross again

    1. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Climbed over Milner like he wasn't there.

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Milner hopeless

      1. goriuanx
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Not a surprise.

      2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Any Defender hopeless there... Albrighton deserves the credit for that cross

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Yup, lovely ball and Slimani is about 9ft tall

        2. Jazz!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Fuchs ...

  14. Penzardlife
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    A)Cedric+Foster
    Or
    B)4.5+That soton keeper

    Got Ake/Dunk to rotate with whatever 4.5 is put in, but no idea who I'd pick.

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I didn't know that Brighton rotated with Bournemouth

  15. Yes Don
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Any draft leagues on the go?
    Looking to join one.

  16. Blud Fam
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Repost, please RMT

    DDG

    Cedric/Luiz/Daniels

    Sane/Alli/Ramsey/Willian

    Lukaku/Jesus/Austin

    Bench: Foster/RLC/Lascelles/Mee

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Great team but Luiz should go to Dawson

  17. willl
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Aguero + Willian
    or
    Morata + Sane?

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      A

      1. willl
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Think I agree.

    2. unlethal
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      First one

    3. TheNovocastrian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I'd go Aguero + Willian until Hazard returns then see if Willian continues to start

  18. TheNovocastrian
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Adivce welcome:

    A) Ali / Ramsey
    B) Son / mhkitaryan & £0.5 spare to stregnthen def ( Luiz to Azp)

    Cheers 🙂

  19. Fantasy Gold
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Mahrez running things

  20. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Looks like Mahrez has decided to play footie again

    1. Evasivo
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      In the shop window of course 😉

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Think a PL team should nab him 😉

  21. El Tel
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Not my usual idea for a RMT, but other than "Too much money in defence" with the way football is developing with attacking wing backs, is there legs in this style of set up?

    Foster
    Trippier Bellerin Walker Bertrand Alonso
    Willian Mkhi Sane
    Kane Lukaku

    Bench: Myhill, Carroll, RLC, Fletcher

    1. Andy_Social
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Definitely. The mainquestion is whether Bellerin is nailed.

      1. El Tel
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, if that's unclear he can be easily switched

    2. TheNovocastrian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Very good first 11, I'm going for a strong def also.

    3. Swanremainsthesame
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      A check on whether a decent 4th mid scores less ppg than those wing backs would tell you.
      Also taking into account that you pretty much mined out the WBs whereas there is plenty of options in MID to transfer in/out on form & fixture

      1. El Tel
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        All very interesting. I'm certainly not claiming it is better just maybe something to consider

  22. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    I don't see why people would choose Ramsey over Willian when they are both £7

    Willian is very impressive and so is Batman i think Conte knows what he is doing Chelsea have a very strong team and they play good football.

    I Believe this will be a very good season for BPL so much first team quality all around its incredible

    1. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Is your brain ok?

      1. Supertrooper
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        No need for that, if you disagree with him give some arguments or ignore....

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I'm starting with both of them.

    3. The Legend Squad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Willian is a very impressive player. Not so sure about Batsuayi but with Morata signing he won't get many minutes

    4. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      with Pedro maybe injured and Hazard out, Willian is becoming nailed and the better choice maybe ?

  23. Syd.
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Van Dyke apologises

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40691894

    1. willl
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Nailed in my team.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Quite marvellous!

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Cor blarmey gavnur

    4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      super....

      (who'll do it?)

      1. Andy_Social
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Super Caley Go Ballistic Celtic Were Atrocious!

    5. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Lolz

  24. Fraz2208
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Ok so after the grilling I got for having Sanchez I've tried again so any thoughts please
    Foster (Elliot)
    Cedric trippier Frances ( Rangel mee)
    Kante sane ozil William (RLC)
    Aguero lacazette Lukaku

    Thoughts please ?

  25. leocarter27
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    What to do here? 1m itb

    Foster / (Myhill)
    Lindelof Cedric Trippier Daniels / (Rangel)
    Kdb Willian Alli Ritchie / (Carroll)
    Lukaku Kane / (Fletcher)

  26. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    I've missed watching Liverpool defending

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      It has been about 25 years

      1. Fantasy Gold
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        😆

  27. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Very surprised people are attacking Milner for not stopping that cross.
    Bias is showing

    I do not see any way he could have stopped that maybe they see something I don't.

    I think we should give credit to good plays and stop blaming defenders when goals are scored every time:

    1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Whose fault was it then?

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Slimani is a huge bloke. The cross was very good.

        No one can be blamed for that i don't see how he could be blamed for not stopping it it's not as if he made a mistake leading to a goal that is when we can blame defenders

    2. willl
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Should stop blaming strikers when goals are scored too then.

  28. Coys96
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Burnley have easy home games, but very hard away games. Is it sensible to go for one of their defenders if you don't have subs so can't rotate?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      You need subs they are essential.

      Anything can happen you need to be prepared.

      If you still insist then Mee isn't a bad shout he should be nailed

    2. Swanremainsthesame
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Its a toss up whether the possibilty of 0,1 point from the diffiicult fixtures overcomes the plus of 3 good clean sheet chances. Dont remember Burnley getting badly spanked last season, so if true then Burnley are actually a decent option to come out ahead of a team on 6 so-so fixtures.

  29. Not so Shaw
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    I been tweaking the team a lot over the last week or so and yesterday for the first time I went to 3 premium strikers and I am pretty set on staying there now and this is why.

    To not go with 3 premium strikers you have to make up the points in premium midfield and for me this season the uncertainty is all in midfield.

    Alli & Eriksen - will there be a Wembley effect? Which one do you choose if you have Kane or if you don't have Kane?

    Salah / Courtinho / Mane - will they just share points? Will they be rotated with a busy August/Sept schedule?

    KDB / Sane - Will KDB sit deeper? Will they all be rotated?

    Even when you drop to the 7-8m bracket there are questions to be answered around playing time of Willian, Fabregas, Mhkitarian, Pedro, Ramsey.

    But if you look at the strikers they are pretty much all locked and focal points for their teams. Lukaku, Laccazette, Kane, Jesus, Morata so early in the season until we know who is playing and what positions, personally the lower risk play is to load 3 strikers, then pick any premium midfielder that takes your fancy cause it will be a lottery.

    1. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      But you could apply the same logic to the strikers.

      Will Kane lose out because of the Wembley effect?
      Will Lukaku, a confidence striker, falter if he starts badly in a different set up and under notably different pressures?
      How will the diminutive Lacazette cope with the transition to a quicker and more physical league?
      Will Morata flourish with some difficult opening fixtures, and is his finishing good enough?
      Where will Jesus play? Is he a lower rotation risk than City's midfielders, all of whom are cheaper?

      1. The Man Pastore
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        this

  30. GS456
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Which one folks?

    a) KDB and Lindelof

    b) Sane and Alonso

    1. Swanremainsthesame
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      b)