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How holding on to your chips and transfers can lead to long-term FPL success

There is a lot of talk in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) community about the importance of patience and knowing when to act and when to wait is widely accepted as a crucial element of success.

But even a casual perusal of the desperate lamentations that echo across fantasy forums on a Saturday evening will illustrate that, while we fantasy managers often fail to act when we should, we very often act when we shouldn’t.

In fact, it’s very hard not to act, it feels good to act, especially after a bad Gameweek.

So why is patience such a virtue when it comes to fantasy football? What does science have to say about this? The answer might involve marshmallows.

The Marshmallow Experiment

Aside from perhaps the Stanford Prison and Milgram experiments (1971 & 1963 respectively), few psychological experiments have gained the notoriety of the Stanford Marshmallow Experiment (1972).

In this study, young children were sat in a room with a marshmallow placed in front of them and were told that they could eat the marshmallow now or, if they waited 15 minutes, they would be given a second marshmallow.

Inevitably, some of the children ate the first marshmallow while some avoided temptation long enough to receive the second marshmallow. And some of them just cried.

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What was most interesting about the Marshmallow Experiment is that they followed up with the children 10 years later and found that those who had resisted eating the first marshmallow had largely scored better in their SATs, performed better in school generally and even had healthier BMIs.

While there is some debate as to why this correlation between the ability to delay gratification and these various measures of success should exist, it exists nonetheless.

Much like tomato ketchup and a certain Irish stout, good things come to those who wait.

While the results of the Marshmallow Experiment are still debated, the idea that there is a link between ability to delay gratification and improved prospects of success in humans has, for years, been supported by high profile and influential figures ranging from psychologist Jordan Peterson to motivational speaker Tony Robbins, both of whom, in fact, consider this ability to be among the most important indicators of success in both children and adults.

Applying the Theory to FPL

So can we as FPL managers learn anything from this?

Well, one very obvious parallel exists if you replace marshmallows with free transfers.

You can have two, but you have to avoid using the first one.

I’m a huge believer in saving the second transfer whenever possible and, while I’m not aware of any studies on the subject, I know that there is a fairly strong correlation between the success of my transfers, how well I’m doing in FPL generally and how often I’ve been able to carry a transfer.

The most obvious reason for why this might be is that, whereas with one transfer your options are limited to players within the same price bracket as the one you’re getting rid of, with two transfers you have far, far more options.

A second reason might be that waiting a gameweek to make two transfers instead of one per gameweek gives you more time to think and reduces the likelihood that you will make some sort of knee-jerk mistake that you end up regretting.

A similar principle could be applied to when you make your transfers. This season, perhaps more than any others, has shown the benefit of waiting as late as possible to make your changes.

It’s generally accepted that access to more, and more current information will typically improve decision quality and FPL is likely no exception.

Of course, being patient is easier said than done, especially off the back of a bad Gameweek where the temptation to make a change, any change, is huge.

Here, we might take a leaf out of the children of the Marshmallow Experiment’s book in that some, in an attempt to avoid temptation, simply put their hands over their eyes.

In an FPL context, this might mean avoiding looking at player prices or even spending too much time thinking about your next transfer until a day or two before the next Gameweek begins.

The principle of delaying gratification could equally apply to when you use your chips.

Serious FPL managers have long been distinguished by their tendency to keep their wildcards and chips until later in the season and, while it doesn’t always work out as intended, this approach confers all sorts of benefits including the opportunity to take advantage of Double Gameweeks, a typically higher team value to invest in players and more knowledge of who the best teams and players are.

Of course, there are also disadvantages to being patient.

Just as cautious cavemen in the Paleolithic Era were less likely to be eaten by sabre-tooth tigers, they were also less likely to find food themselves, particularly if they were too cautious.

The benefits of delaying action in FPL must always be weighed against the benefits of taking it and distinguishing which is the correct course and when, is and always has been a big part of the skill to this game.

However, knowing that a bias towards patience generally (be it natural or forced through will) is likely to produce better results overall, should be a positive step in the direction of making better and more deliberate FPL decisions.

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  1. Mo Mo
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which is better ?
    A- Kane & Adams > Vardy & Antonio -4
    B- Kane , Adams , Dallas , Bissouma > Vardy ,Antonio Gundogan & Lowton -12

  2. ragsyboys
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Will Cresswell and Antonio play both games?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Probably

  3. OptimusBlack
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any news on McCarthy is he fit to play or Forster ??

    1. FPLShaqiri
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Last I heard he was available: https://twitter.com/FFScout/status/1349726944816816136

  4. Will J 256
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hi guys, thoughts on -8?

    Kane, Son and Tierney to Antonio, Salah and Chilwell?

    Playing the BB so would set me up nicely!

    1. BeWater
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Like it.

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No

  5. teneighty
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I have not put a lot of thought into this but I'll throw it out here to see the reactions: TC on Soucek, madness or genious?

    1. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Risky, and would cap at 15 points (more than 1 goal a game unrealistic)

      1. teneighty
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Well, in the last 4 games where he scored a goal his points has been 8, 9, 10 and 11.

    2. FPLShaqiri
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's my VC if that helps

    3. Gross Blank Point
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not the first to mention that today

      1. teneighty
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Awesome reply!

    4. Sanchit
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Madness

    5. Marcin the Pole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Madness

    6. teneighty
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers for the input guys. 🙂

  6. Vovhund
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    TC KdB this week?

    1. unclesbasement
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      its between him or salah

  7. popey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    is -4 for this BB worth it;

    Grealish (mci NEW), James (ful lei) Bamford (BHA) Keeper is Forster so almost certainly nil

  8. Il Capitano
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Need some City in here.

    1FT 0.3m ITB

    Johnstone
    Robertson Justin Lowton Coufal
    Soucek Bruno Salah Son*
    Vardy Bamford*

    McCarthy* - Raphinha* Dallas* Adams*
    * SGW

    Thinking about:

    A) Dallas > Stones
    B) Robbo + Son > Stones + KDB (-4)
    C) Robbo + Lowton/Dallas > Double City def (-4)

    1. mattrobb
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      C (lowton) or B

      1. Il Capitano
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

  9. Pedersen
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is it worth doing: Son -> Bruyne (-4). Would keep Bruyne to gw 23 then

    1. Kroneek
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

  10. AD105
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Holding & DCL to Coufal & Antonio worth a -4?

    1. mr messi
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think so

  11. Podorsky
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    As DCL replacement: what are the best options between?

    Watkins, Wilson, Antonio or lo and behold Timo Werner?

    1. mr messi
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Antonio

  12. barcaa7
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Would you bench boost If u have 4 SGW on your bench (triple Leeds with McCarthy)?

    1. Sanchit
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Starting 11 all DGWers?

      1. barcaa7
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yes

    2. mattrobb
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Only if you think Leeds are going to get a mountain of points, or if you've used your 2nd WC

      If you've still got your 2nd WC, hold it for a BB in 29

      1. barcaa7
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, i still got my 2nd WC but iam not sure what should i do.

    3. Kroneek
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That is exactly what I have and I do not think so.

      Bamford, Dallas, Rafa & McCarthy.

      Super tricky though, if Leeds smashes them yes if it's 1-1 then maybe not.

    4. Westfield Irons ⭐️
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I have exact 4 x SGW players and will 99% bench boost.
      What score do you reckon we could get in total?
      I think 15-20 and expect Leeds to win to nil

      1. barcaa7
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        i think Leeds will win 2-1 , and McCarthy wont get the CS
        so it will be about 10-16 points max

        1. Westfield Irons ⭐️
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          BARCAA7 > OK a bit more pessimistic than me, but 15 ish is the consesus. I think that's acceptable, not great, but probably not far off the norm. I agree with the idea it 'get's BB out of the way' meaning we can start to remove funds from the bench again and focus on the starting 11 for the next WC/DGW opportunity that comes along

  13. Sanchit
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Doing Son to Salah with my 1 FT.
    Which of these is worth a hit?
    Can take multiple hits also.
    A. Dier to Cresswell
    B. Dallas to Coufal
    C. Bamford to Antonio

    1. barcaa7
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      all seems good

  14. Gross Blank Point
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    In all the years I've played this game I could probably count on one hand the amount of times I've managed to save up a double transfer lol!!

  15. Merlinho
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I’m shaping to bring in Antonio for DCL, and benching Bamford and Dallas.

    Do I
    1) stick with that and no chip
    2) get in Bailly for Ferguson for +4 and bench boost with a non-playing keeper
    3) Targett and Johnstone in for + 8 and bench boost

    1. mr messi
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I’m in a similar position and think I’m not going to bb now

  16. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Cavani likely to play both do we reckon?

    1. Sanchit
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      120 minutes in both combined I reckon

      1. Silent Hunter
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This

  17. balint84
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A) Adams to Antonio (free)
    B) Zouma to Stones (free)
    C) do both -4
    A bit afraid of losing Chelsea defense

    What do you think?

    1. barcaa7
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      a

    2. Silent Hunter
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

  18. Eleven Hag
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who should be the (C) here?

    Martinez
    Dias Cancelo Coufal
    KDB Salah Bruno Grealish Soucek
    Vardy Wood

  19. The Colonel
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    1) Son + Kane > Salah + Firminho (-4). Means playing Bamford as a SGW player
    2) Reid > Antonio. Means benching Bamford.

  20. The Red Devil
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A-Grealish+ Taylor+ Bednarek -> Salah+ Mitchell+ coufal (-8)
    Yay or nay?
    B- Kdb TC- yay or nay?

  21. Catilo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A. Vardy & Foden (FT)

    B. Antonio & KDB (-4)

  22. Gunners in Haaland
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How is this BB19 team looking?

    Martínez
    Dallas | Cancelo | Cresswell | Coufal
    Salah | Fernandes | KDB(c) | Soucek
    Firmino | Watkins
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    Johnstone | Castagne | Raphinha | Bamford

    1. matiakez
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Looks good to me. Firmino a nice differential.

  23. Silecro
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hi all,

    Good enough to bench boost?

    Johnstone, Adams, Bednarek, Dallas

    Also have Bamford and Son but they are in starting 11

  24. matiakez
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Bench boost this Martinez KWP Dallas Bamford?

    Starting XI all have doubles.

    1. FPLShaqiri
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      100%

  25. b91jh
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Initial bench:
    Button/Raphinha/KWP/DCL

    New bench to BB: (-8)
    Johnstone/Raphinha/Cancelo or Stones/Antonio

    Yay or nay?

  26. eririi
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Sorry about the repost, but I’m stuck.
    My plan is this team
    McCarthy - Johnstone
    Justin - Stones - TAA - Coufal - T Silva
    Bruno - Maddison - Salah - Mount - Soucek
    Bamford - Cavani - Antonio

    This gives 13 DGW players with BB, but have to take -8 to get there
    DCL -> Cavani
    Adams -> Antonio
    Alioski -> Stones

    Is it worth it?

    1. b91jh
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not a fan of the Cavani move, would get Watkins/Wilson instead and upgrade Stones to Dias for long term nailedness.

  27. Reeker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Martinez
    Dias - James - Robertson - Coufal
    Soucek - Son - Grealish - Salah - Fernandes
    Bamford
    (Peacock-Farrell) (DCL - Dallas - Brewster)

    1 FT - 2.3 million ITB

    What should I prioritise?

    I can do
    1. Brewster to Antonio
    2. Try and get in KDB (0.1 away from Son to KDB)
    2a) James + Son -> KDB + Stones
    2b) DCL -> Antonio then either do Son to KDB for a -4 or do Son to KDB next week (favouring the latter)
    3. Try to get in a City defender (James to Cancelo or Stones?)

    1. Pukki Party
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Can you afford DCL to Vardy?

      1. Reeker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Nope

  28. Pukki Party
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Martinez
    Robbo Cancelo Holding*
    Salah Bruno Son* Soucek
    Vardy Bamford* Adams*

    Ramsdale Ayling Anguissa Taylor
    0ft 0.1itb
    * =sgw

    A) Adams to Watkins -4
    B) Ayling to Furlong/Lowton -4 and play over Holding/Adams
    C) no hits

  29. AnfieldLad
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A) Stephens Raphinha -> Stones Lookman (-4)
    B) Raphinha Rodrigo -> Lookman Antonio (-4)
    C) Mane Raphina Rodrigo -> KDB Lookman Antonio (-8)

    Lookman is questionable but that’s for funding the other moves

    1. Pukki Party
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B if you don't have another ManCity defender

      1. AnfieldLad
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I have Cancelo, you mean B if I do have one?

        1. Pukki Party
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah that's what i meant.