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Dugout Discussion July 14

Spain v England team news: Shaw in for Trippier

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Spain take on England in Sunday’s Euro 2024 final at the Olympiastadion in Berlin.

La Roja beat France 2-1 in an absorbing semi-final clash, while England came from behind to defeat the Netherlands.

Kick-off is at 20:00 BST.

Luis de la Fuente makes two changes from the semi-final, with Robin Le Normand and Dani Carvajal back from suspension.

They both slot into the Spanish back four and replace Nacho and Jesus Navas, who drop to the bench.

As for England, Luke Shaw makes his first start of Euro 2024 in place of Kieran Trippier.

The rest of the starting XI is unchanged, with Phil Foden and Jude Bellingham once again supporting Harry Kane up front.

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Spain XI: Simon, Carvajal, Le Normand, Laporte, Cucurella, Rodri, Ruiz, Yamal, Olmo, Williams, Morata

Subs: Raya, Nacho, Vivian, Merino, Joselu, Torres, Grimaldo, Remiero, Baena, Zubimendi, Oyarzabal, Navas, Lopez, Perez

England XI: Pickford, Walker, Stones, Guehi, Saka, Mainoo, Rice, Shaw, Fod­en, Bellingham, Kane

Subs: Ramsdale, Alexander-Arnold, Trippier, Konsa, Dunk, Gallagher, Toney, Gordon, Watkins, Bowen, Eze, Gomez, Henderson, Palmer, Wharton

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  1. Touré De Force
    • 14 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Stephen Kenny for the England gig

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    1. noissimbus
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Looking at the trend, lack of hair wins them. Sean Dyche is the one.

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  2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 11 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Yamals future so bright he better wear shades 😎

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  3. El_Matador
    • 13 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Anyone know player of the match?

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    1. Travel Notes
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Yamal.

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      1. Travel Notes
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        wins ' Young Player of the Tournament'.

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    2. Touré De Force
      • 14 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Williams

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    3. CoracAld2831
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      N. Williams.

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    4. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Williams

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  4. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 11 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    If you beat Croatia, Germany, France and England, you deserve to win.

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    1. JBG
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      What if you barely beat Switzerland, Slovakia, Netherlands, Serbia and France?

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      1. El_Matador
        • 13 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        France? Lol

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        1. JBG
          • 6 Years
          6 months, 4 days ago

          For some reason I thought England played France this EUROs.

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      2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Then you should be happy with the silver.

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    2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Oh and Italy

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    3. CoracAld2831
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      If you win every game without losing, you are the best team.

      Ie: I agree.

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      1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Trying to get at the incredible difference in opposition for the two teams way to the final

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  5. Touré De Force
    • 14 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Declan Rice gotta bury that header, he had ages to pick his spot

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  6. F4L
    • 10 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    sad, very sad. have to think at some point these kind KO runs dry up, right time for Southgate to leave now. not sure who should come in

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    1. GreennRed
      • 13 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Pochettino?

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      1. have you seen cyan
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Poch is the same. Might get you to a final, if you are very lucky, but wont get you across the line.

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        1. GreennRed
          • 13 Years
          6 months, 4 days ago

          Agreed. Some called him a great manager with Spurs but won nothing, should have won one league at least with that squad. Not sure Potter or Howe are much better options for ye.

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          1. have you seen cyan
            • 5 Years
            6 months, 4 days ago

            I think Poch is good at building a team up from nothing. But then someone needs to take over lol. I think he would have suited Man U tbh.

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  7. JBG
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    "England created less xG at Euro 2024 (6.43) than Croatia (7.10).

    Croatia went out at the Group Stage."

    https://x.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1812592531772723482

    But who cares as long as long as they win right? Oh wait.... defending yourself to victory might not be a good idea after all.

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  8. LarryDuff
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Football won in the end

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    1. F4L
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      i know this comes across as very bitter but not sure a team that spends half the time rolling around on the floor after every little bit of contact is football in its purest form

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  9. Assisting the assister
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Klopp needs a job - get the lad in for a chat

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    1. have you seen cyan
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      given Englands individual quality, you would expect managers to be fighting over the job.

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      1. GreennRed
        • 13 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Other than Bellingham, Saka, Palmer, Foden, Rice, maybe Mainoo who are the quality players that'll be playing for the next 6 years? They need more coming into the squad.

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        1. have you seen cyan
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 4 days ago

          tbh,m quality isn't why we lost. We probably have the best squad currently. Just not the best team. WC in 2 years at least.

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    2. TheBiffas
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      He doesn't need a job, he needs a break

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    3. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      😆

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  10. shirtless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Switched cap from Williams to Kane whoops

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  11. The Red Devil
    • 9 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Like I've said many times, England will never win an euro/WC under Southgate

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    1. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      But will Harry Kane ever win anything under anyone?

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      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 12 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        No. Everybody knows that.

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      2. panda07
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Do you think he's a curse?!

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        1. GreennRed
          • 13 Years
          6 months, 4 days ago

          No. He's a Galway man not a Mayo man!

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          1. panda07
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            6 months, 4 days ago

            😆

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      3. The Red Devil
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Him under Guardiola would've been interesting

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    2. The Knights Template
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      I’ve always liked you! Don’t listen to the others!

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    3. Mr. O'Connell
      • 12 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Loser mentality rife across the country tbf. Media to reaction to us reaching a final we were almost odds on to make was overblown. Send in selfies of your dogs wearing sunglasses etc on sky sports news this morning.

      3 lions was released in 1996. 30 years of hurt x 2.

      The teams in a good place. Southgate should do the right thing and step aside. Unfortunately I've got a bad feeling that losing in a final was the worst thing that could have happened.

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  12. SAUCY SALAH
    • 8 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Next England Manager - Pep

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    1. have you seen cyan
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      should actually give Pep a blank cheque lol. The only manager I have 100% faith in that would win something with England.

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      1. SAUCY SALAH
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        He’d certainly get the best out of Foden!

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    2. Not again Shirley
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Shame he’s not English though. It is a national team after all.

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    3. Not again Shirley
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Will be Potter or Howe.

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      1. The Abyss
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Howe I think could be a great shout. Potter not so much.

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    4. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      😆

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  13. The Mandalorian
    • 12 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Spain had one world class player in Rodri, England have about 6.

    The big difference is Spain played like a team which is well coached.

    Spanish players improved under their coach, while England players got worse.

    England copied Switzerlands formation, got lucky that it improved the team and mostly depended on individual moments from exceptional players.

    Pickford playing long balls all final like it's Stoke City.

    Total media driven nonsense to support Southgate.has really brainwashed a nation into thinking he's a great coach.

    If you understand basic tactics, patterns of play and movement through the lines you will recognise England were poor while lesser teams had a better football identity.

    Only beating one FIFA top 10 team in a major tournament over 8 years is simply not good enough.
    Southgates poor underlying data eventually shows itself in the big moments.

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    1. have you seen cyan
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      well said

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    2. Andrew D48
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      A superb insight

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    3. azz007
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      This to a T.

      Even with Pep or Klopp England may do well. But to win a major is a far stretch. Not in their dna or have the mentality to win a major.

      We Alwyas get France Spain Argentina Brazil germany Italy winning. They have the history their dna. We have 1966 where most won't even remember and prob okuerayed like 3 games and won.

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    4. jacob1989
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      This spain is beatable. Have to play fire with fire. No point just defending vs spain. Germany came closest but too bad they conceded last minute of extra time.
      Southgate is a joke. Just defend till its 0-1. Then attack till its 1-1.. then defend till its 1-2.. just wants to play 0-0 and win on penalties

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    5. Sprinterdude
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      That's where we could possibly get a win here tonight if Southgate goes it's almost better than winning the Euros for me

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    6. George Sillett
      • 9 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Do you watch a lot of Stoke City nowadays ?

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  14. Dynamic Duos
    • 11 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Well I'm glad that's over! Launch FPL tomorrow, fingers crossed

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    1. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Hopefully no rule change that makes us twist again like we did this summer.

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      1. George Sillett
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Loads of changes needed. It's become so template and content creator driven it needs a massive shake up to make it interesting. Sheep game

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        1. Sheffield Wednesday
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 4 days ago

          Happy to see some other changes - just not that one.

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          1. Baps hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 months, 4 days ago

            I don't think they are going to do it. This game is for masses, not for hard-core players only. People would forget deadlines, different time zones would be out of the game etc. So I can't see them being that stupid.

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        2. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 months, 4 days ago

          What change would stop content creators creating content?!?

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          1. Zimo
            • 6 Years
            6 months, 4 days ago

            A change in their attitudes

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    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      I fear they will drag out price reveals and launch later on Tuesday late or on Wednesday morning

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  15. Not again Shirley
    • 8 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    One area where Southgate was poor was squad rotation. Walker for example played every minute of every match. No wonder he looked knackered in the final.

    Also if I was the manager I wouldn’t have played both Bell and Foden in same team. Rotate them and play Eze or Gordon on left wing.

    Kane also should have been rotated more with Ollie and Toney.

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    1. jacob1989
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      He is too stubborn to make any changes until england are behind. Nd even then plays only till england equalise

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  16. sirmorbach
    • 8 Years
    6 months, 4 days ago

    Who's next? Graham Potter?

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    1. Mirror Man
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Wayne Rooney

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      • Dynamic Duos
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Owen

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    2. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Not only did I play Cole Palmer today but I captained him(What did I have to lose?). Figured he's now too expensive to get in FPL so wanted one last chance to have him in my squad. Brrrrrrr

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      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        He is "only" 10.5 and being 2 million cheaper than Salah makes him probably better fpl option. Fixture dependent possibly though. Saka and Foden are also likely to be around 10 million, so even though I don't like "price points", team structure that allows to have 2/3 is certainly something to consider.

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      2. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        I captained Nico Williams because he is much harder to C in fpl than Cole Palmer.

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    3. Zimo
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 4 days ago

      Would you go Haaland Nkunku or Palmer Foden?

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      1. Holmes
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 4 days ago

        Easy PF

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