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Wednesday Dugout Discussion

The Gameweek concludes with three matches under lights and a cast of Fantasy heavy-hitters on show. Chelsea face QPR at the Bridge with Rafa’s teamsheet much anticipated by all, while Liverpool share the same kick-off tie for their Anfield meet with Sunderland. Meanwhile, the 8pm kick-off is at St James’ Park, where Newcastle, sans Demba Ba, face Everton as they look to stave off talk of a relegation battle.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open for business and ready for the rowdy and reserved alike.

Rafa confirms our worst fears: he makes the bravest of moves and rests both Eden Hazard and Juan Mata, along with Ramires: Victor Moses, Oscar and Marko Marin are handed starts, while Frank Lampard is retained and skippers the side. Benitez also opts to preserve Ashley Cole at left-back, drafting in Ryan Bertrand for a start. With Petr Cech stricken by a groin problem, Ross Turnbull is in goal as expected, while David Luiz looks to be in midfield once again.

QPR also make changes in opposition, with Shaun Derry, Fabio and Esteban Granero given starts; Junior Hoilett is also given an opportunity to impress as the likes of Shawn Wright-Phillips, Djibril Cisse, Samba Diakite and Armand Traore all make way. Park Ji-sung is back following injury and on the bench.

Over at Anfield, Brendan Rodgers brings Andre Wisdom back into the fold following Jose Enrique’s hamstring injury. That’s one of two changes as Lucas makes a return to midfield at the expense of Joe Allen. Glen Johnson will presumably shift to left-back.

Martin O’Neill has no option but to make a change at the back with hamstring victim John O’Shea missing out: Danny Rose returns at left full-back, however, after sitting out the Spurs game as part of his loan arrangement.

With Demba Ba embroiled in transfer talk, Newcastle are forced to make changes to their lineup as Shola Ameobi starts up front. Mike Williamson returns from his ban to bolster a defence hit for seven goals at the Emirates, while Vurnon Anita also returns having missed the Arsenal drubbing through injury. The injured Danny Simpson sits out, while Gael Bigirimana drops to the bench.

As for the Toffees, they are able to recall Marouane Fellaini after his three-match ban, while Phil Neville also returns from injury to strengthen their lineup. Both Leighton Baines and Steven Pienaar are fit enough to start despite the scares earlier today; it’s Thomas Hitzlsperger and Victor Anichebe who drop out.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Lateriser 12
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Hey Daniel,

    Conspiracy?

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  2. UKG
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Well done to all who called it Mata being benched. Chances he won't come on for a cameo?? I've got Puncheon first sub.....na didn't think so!!

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Chelsea struggled against QPR last year if they are struggling with 40 mins to go he will 100% come on there is still a very good chance he will come on at some point anway

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      1. El Muñeco
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        It was 6-1 to chelsea las year.

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    2. bring on Real Madrid !
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      he'll defo come on may be will get only 20 min

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  3. Trigg ⭐️
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Marin booked, red card risk, sub him off.

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  4. living the dream
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    I can see Mata/Hazard to Cazorla/Walcott being a popular move in the next week or so.

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  5. DRIZ ✅
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    LEE MASON the bald headed twat didnt have the balls there.

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  6. unoaime
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Still can't believe i kept Boyce for ages and then got rid of him just before he finally scores goal.

    At least i have Noble coming off the bench.

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  7. MJ6987
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    So, have the “Big Five” midfield WC plans been quietly shelved with Mata benched yet again?

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    1. Pat Mustard
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      No, tonight makes it more appealing. No rest now for 4 or 5 games.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        But, Rafa just generally likes rotating his players and with Hazard, Oscar, Ramires, Moses, etc there's plenty of competition

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    2. Evs
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      • 15 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I don't like big 4, I've gone for a big 4 - this includes mata.

      I always play 3-4-3.

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  8. Pat Mustard
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Loving that pic #teamAVB

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  9. Lateriser 12
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    I repeat. Daniel, conspiracy?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Show me that team! I have created drafts with the same front 8

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      1. Lateriser 12
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        53461

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        1. MJ6987
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          Que?

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          1. Gaz Downright
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            • 14 Years
            11 years, 8 months ago

            that's an FPL team ID

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  10. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Toying with this, what do you reckon gents?
    Bego - (Bunn)
    Gibbs - Dawson - Jevans - (Harte - O-Brien)
    Mata - Bale - Michu - Wallcott - (5.0)
    Sturridge - Ba - RVP

    Cheers

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  11. Granville
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    • 15 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Pardew said Demba Ba is moving. So that's it then. I wonder if he'll make the Stoke game.

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    1. JWF
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      What do you reckon on the FPL prospects then Gran? I'm tempted by a straight swap with Torres but I'm assuming they'll rotate...?

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      1. Granville
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        • 15 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Dunno, I'll sleep on it. I might even invoke my WC.

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  12. ogqozo
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Taarabt playing the 9 by the way. Not that QPR's gonna score TODAY or something, but it's good to have it at the back of your mind...

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  13. DRIZ ✅
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Mata/Hazard on for Marin 2nd half.

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    1. SPorting
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      one player off and two players on?

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      1. Bad Pen
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        That sounds like Mourinho tactics to me 😉

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  14. Wild Rover
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Moyes in refs face pre-game re fouls on Fellaini in the box...

    Hatty of Fellaini assited pens for Bainsey the... 😎

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    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Good luck against KK mate

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, pity we got drawn together but at leat one of us gets to the final

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        1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 8 months ago

          THIS

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  15. UKG
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Really really need a Qpr goal

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  16. Jonny
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    5 live is a bit fierce tonight. savage getting into pleat

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  17. Tadic is the new Eriksen
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Big night for me, hoping to survive without having any Chelsea, Nelsen coming off the bench, and no Fellaini o_O

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  18. Smellbobs
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Evening guys - most of you may have seen this but...

    quote from BBC live updates:

    Here's a bit more from Alan Pardew on the departure of Demba Ba:

    "We prepared yesterday with Demba in the side. I was assuming that, I was in the dark as I have been on most of this particular deal because obviously the ball was in Demba's court. We had no inclination yesterday, we set up the team with Papiss in his normal role when Demba played. Although I'm tempted to change, I haven't, I've just put Shola straight in for Demba. But going forward, Papiss will go through the middle for us. Tonight he starts out on that right hand side where he has done terrific for us."

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    1. Smellbobs
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      cisse will be up top as the focal pint then?

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      1. Flycroft
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        after tonight yes

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      See how he does then. Not sure he's viable atm

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    3. Smakies
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      what does he mean by terrific ? in a good or bad way ?

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      1. Smellbobs
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        worrying cast-off comment to show cisse can return to the right hand side if needs be?

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  19. Zizou
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    prob been discussed but is ba worth keeping if at chelsea

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    1. Tadic is the new Eriksen
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      IMO no

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    2. MJ6987
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think so

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    3. Mr Smith
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Not not mentioned once, surprisingly...

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    4. Bad Pen
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Not sure, it's a wait and see for me.

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    5. heartsattack
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      No. Not at all. I'd imagine the two will be rotated often.

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    6. ogqozo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      He is if he's gonna play. He's just a great shooter, he's not gonna score less in Chelsea system. If he plays. And he should play, cause he's better than Torres.

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  20. Tim Canterbury
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Mata not playing is anoying

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    1. Feanor
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      But not unexpected.

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    2. ShirtyTheBear
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      especially for those of us whose opponent has noble coming on off the bench

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  21. Feanor
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Moyes is such a bad liar. Getting my hopes up for Pienaar not playing.

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  22. DRIZ ✅
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    torres looking ghostly.

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  23. Uber Mo
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    So I remember the second half of last season well - Cisse and, in the latter stages Barfa, killed it with Cisse through the middle and Barfa on the right.

    With Ba going what are the chances of an upturn in form for Cisse and Ba?

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  24. Trigg ⭐️
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Ba can't play for Chelski in the Europa League, right?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      no

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      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 8 months ago

        Thought so. Possibly a few more league starts for Ba, if Torres plays on Thursdays. Just a little consideration.

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Very good point.

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  25. Lateriser 12
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Will have an eye on how Fabio performs today. When both Rafael and Fabio came to United, Fabio was considered the better prospect.

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  26. Uber Mo
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    So I remember the second half of last season well - Cisse and, in the latter stages Barfa, killed it with Cisse through the middle and Barfa on the right.

    With Ba going what are the chances of an upturn in form for Cisse and Barfa?

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    1. ~SpartakMac
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Possible, but Cisse surely not worth his 8.8m pricetag...?

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    2. stooshermadness
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      • 15 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Well, Cisse would seem to have the floor at this point to try to regain the form from last spring when he could not stop scoring.

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    3. ogqozo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Average. Newcastle has to begin to play better as a team for the offense to have something. It would be a nice differential if Cisse wasn't so expensive, and Ben Arfa injured. When Ben Arfa returns to first team, watch the game and see if they change. Before then, it's probably Cisse on right wing and Ameobi up front. Ameobi might be more worthy a chance, see how he plays today.

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  27. NATSTER
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Hope Nelsen scores.. Btw, it's about 3:00 am in Bangkok. Good night.

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      the ladyboys will be out.

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  28. This!
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    The inevitable problem and downfall of "5 midfielders" is they are more likely to be rotated than the forwards. I can't seem to shake that lingering fear, and I might go back to the drawing board with a boring 3-4-3 🙁

    Anyone else agree?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Bale will not get rotated, nor will Caz, don't think Theo will if he signs, Mata may do, but he may be worth the risk. Michu and Fellani, no chance

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    2. Les Bleus
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Why is everyone worried of the "downfall" of the 5 mids? We knew that Mata would be rested he's played 3 games in a week and a half! If he played, it would have been a bonus really.

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    3. Binman_UK
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      i'm currently sitting on a 3-4-3 formation wildcard with the obvious choices in midfield... but this means leaving fellaini out. waiting to see how they get on tonight. everton's fixtures are great too./

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    4. emperikal
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Just get a 3rd striker who plays each week as well in case they are indeed rotated?

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    5. BobB
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      • 15 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      RvP aside, all of the forwards at the top sides will be rotated - especially in the light of the Sturridge and Ba signings.

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    6. This!
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      Well, Ba screwed up my lean forward line 🙂 Very interested to see how Fellaini is playing tonight

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  29. Declan
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    Taarabt shot off target 😆

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  30. Wild Rover
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 8 months ago

    If Fellaini had normal hair he would look about 40 yo... 🙂

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    1. ogqozo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 8 months ago

      David Luiz would look 70.

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