The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

City’s Bosnian striker makes the most of his cameo role by netting City’s winner against a plucky Palace, while Hull’s midfield quarterback hits double figures on a day that saw Fantasy managers plunged into panic by the absence of captaincy candidate, Wayne Rooney.

The Game Changer

Man City’s team sheet was the focus of our morning anxiety and, while Rooney’s omission eventually overshadowed Manuel Pellegrini’s reshuffles, the City lineup was to prove pivotal in our Saturday scoring. With the likes of Yaya Toure and Alvaro Negredo absent, it was left to Edin Dzeko to make the difference as a brave Palace rearguard was eventually breached by the Bosnian’s decisive strike.

Subject of our “Differentials” article and my own pre-amble this morning, Dzeko’s intervention will have provided rewards for a minority of Fantasy managers who took a risk on the City striker.

As my own ramblings mentioned, Dzeko looks to be a one-week proposition – unlikely to feature in Wednesday’s starting lineup, he was a trade who had to produce today to justify the gamble. With maximum Fantasy Premier League (FPL) bonus likely to follow, a nine point return, potentially doubled with the captaincy, looks a notable contribution in a Gameweek which seems destined for modest returns.

Sadly for Dzeko and his owners, his winner, however precious, is unlikely to strengthen his case for consistent starts in Pellegrini’s plans. He’s likely be shown a quick exit and thanked for his efforts on a day which saw the big names blank.

The Underused

Heralded as a superb summer signing, Tom Huddlestone has been integral to Hull City’s impressive start to their Premier League campaign. Stationed in a deep-lying midfield role, turning defence into attack with sublime simplicity, the £5 million signing from Spurs seemed unlikely to tempt Fantasy interest. Today’s impressive 14-point haul may well change that – albeit briefly.

Huddlestone’s superb dead-ball delivery has been a feature of the Tigers’ season but, today, his two assists were accompanied by a first goal of the campaign in a 6-0 drubbing of René Meulensteen’s Fulham.

That was his first Premier League goal since 2011 – underlining the fact that Huddlestone’s appeal perhaps remains limited. At just 4.8 in the FPL, however, the playmaker is an assured starter who will likely contribute further assists.

Surely a contender for Hull’s player of the year, Huddlestone is exactly the kind of midfielder that Fantasy games and their scoring systems should be trying to reach. Huddlestone may claim maximum FPL bonus points from today’s convincing win but that will be only the second time he’s been recognised by the BPS. Arguably, as one of the season’s top performers so far, we should have had reason to take notice way before today’s haul. Huddlestone is one of several midfielders “underused” and undervalued in Fantasy terms.

The Selection Poser

Rooney’s absence from the United team sheet with further groin gripes was undoubtedly the biggest blow on a day which saw rotation bite. United stuttered without his influence but David Moyes and United have already confirmed that he is likely to make his return against Spurs on Wednesday. With FPL vice captains kicking in, the onus will now be back on Luis Suarez to produce at Chelsea – the impact of Rooney’s injury could well be minor, then.

Even so, with Yaya Toure omitted by Pellegrini, we saw two key figures in the established “template” go AWOL, just a few days after Aaron Ramsey’s injury. Such setbacks could yet cause a shake-up in the rankings and mini-leagues, although few Fantasy managers seem likely to have benefited significantly from today’s events.

Tomorrow’s encounter at the Bridge will be more important that ever. Should Suarez blank again and Theo Walcott, backed by some with armband, produce at Newcastle, we may yet see Gameweek 19 have a significant impact.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. copps
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    7 from 5 including captaining. got to laugh.

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    1. MCH
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yikes. I really wouldn't be.

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i am. ;D

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    3. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Tough day for a lot of people.

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  2. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Nice that people did horribly this gw, fewer unknown twats asking if they did well.

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    1. Bad Pen
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Just the usual twats commiserating instead 😉

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      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Oh yes 😉

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    2. Ted Maul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      15 from 2 any good?

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    3. Epic Fail
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I think people moaning that they did terrible is nearly as bad as the people who gloat when they've done well.

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Spot on EF

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      2. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Agreed, even worse are those that moan regardless.

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  3. Spike ⚽️
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I don't trust Moyes with this crap that Rooney will be ok for the visit of Spurs. This injury is a reoccurrence of Rooney's last one so cant be that quick to heal !

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    1. Barry Woj
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah, I just don't trust Moyes. It would be good to have one of those from the physio articles on 'adductor strains' or whatever it was Moyes said for a bit of context.

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        this ^

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    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Aye. He does chat a load of excrement does Moyes.

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    3. Lloyd Xmas
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Whats his name used to do this, physio lad,cant remember his name.

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  4. r0nh
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    A few words of comfort for those complaining about their terrible week...

    You are all going to die anyway.

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks Ron 🙂

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'll see you down though 😉

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    3. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'm immortal.

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    4. Lloyd Xmas
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You are such a cheery soul.

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  5. Captain Hindsight
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I can't believe people seem so surprised at Rooney getting injured. With David Moyes at the helm, an injury to a United player is always on the cards.

    The wise thing would have been to do Rooney to Anelka and Yaya to Huddlestone.

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Not funny!

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    2. Art Vandelay
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      😆

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      *yawns*

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    4. Barry Woj
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Love it. Only just seen the team you've linked as well. Should have known.

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    5. Crouch Potato!
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Don't recall that being a notable trend during his time at Everton.

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  6. John Nerdelbaum
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Watching the game today, not sure if double Cardiff defence is really sustainable going forward. Marshall made some decent saves and I would be inclined to keep but I dread to think what will happen at the Emirates. Positive news on Vlaar should mean that B.Turner is nailed to that third sub place.

    0.3 ITB 1FT

    Marshall
    Mert Distin Ward
    Theo Hazard Cabaye Sterling
    Suarez Rooney Negredo

    Lewis / Vlaar / B.Turner / Silva

    Annoyingly, 0.1 mil short of Lewis > Mannone

    a) Marshall > Mannone. Frees up a bit of cash and then look at getting Marshall back when I WC

    b) Vlaar > Bardsley/Olsson/Clyne and keep Marshall.

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    1. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      "Not sure if double Cardiff defence is really sustainable"

      This statement dumbfounds me... At what point was even one Cardiff defender 'sustainable'?

      Cardiff concedes the 2nd most shots per game at 18.
      Only Fulham are worse...

      To put this is perspective the woeful Sunderland 'only' concede 16.5 spg.

      tl;dr
      Don't start one let alone two Cardiff defenders

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  7. BONZ
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Just home from footy and WTF!!

    Can I just say now that Moyes a big hairy useless Womens Thing!! WTF was wrong with Shrek??

    Also that other Manchester side went and screwed us over 🙁 Huge captaincy fail here!!

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Groin problem according to Moyes. Although he will be back for the New Year's Day game

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Not so sure about that

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      2. Podge
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Rooney "Moyes I've a pain in me bollocks !"
        Moyes "Wayne has a slight groin problem"
        🙂

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        1. Declan-
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          That is what I meant 😛

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      3. BONZ
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He could have told us yday some were throwing captains arm bands at him and yaya lol

        shocking week it seems for many.

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        1. Declan-
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah... I had Nasri and Negredo who I half expected would be benched but Rooney was a complete shock.

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  8. Hot Sauce
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Brady out. Looking for a bench fodder. But he will play next week.

    A.Sterling 5.1 Bit much for a bench fodder. Great for next week though!
    B.Kasami 4.4. Pretty nailed on, Has AVL at home next week. Cheap bench fodder!

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    1. Hot Sauce
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Well kasami not really nailed on. Guess it is sterling then!

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    2. John Nerdelbaum
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Sterling would be a good shout.

      Ki looked decent today with Villa coming up

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      1. Hot Sauce
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Already did it to sterling Brady falling tonight and needed to do it now so I could afford it.

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        1. John Nerdelbaum
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Yep, Sterling looks good for the next few weeks.

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  9. Dr Dream
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Got one of those new smart phone things for Christmas..what a load of old tosh. I don't know what most of it means let alone how to work the damned thing...Where's the bin..load of old rubbish.!!

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Works well as a door stop.

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Not even any good for that..Why do folk get so excited over all this junk..

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        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          But but but.....nevermind

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    2. MCH
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      In a few months you won't be able to live without it.

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Oh I will..I have a box of about six others that the wife has bought me over the years. all unused

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        1. MCH
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Ha ha brilliant! Better off selling them sure.

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      2. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        iLife Support app

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    3. It’s A Joke
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ungrateful old barsteward

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah...All I wanted for Christmas was a copy of that new book "The Aushwitz goalkeeper"...not one of these bloody things.

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    4. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Be patient

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    5. Holy See
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Are you Victor Meldrew? 😉

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Oh yes..very, very Victor Meldrew.

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    6. Well you know, Triffic
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Why are you using a computer.

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Because my son keeps it going and it's easy to use for as long as it works...as soon as it doesn't work I walk off and leave it.

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        1. FantaCity
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I don't own a smartphone, but it's handy when you're standing next to someone at footie (my brother) who can give you the live results as they come in for your FPL team 😉

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  10. the axolotl
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    with hull winning 6-0, i'm a bit disappointed that i didn't get more points with chester and livermore jumping off the bench. got to be greedy in this game

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  11. bournemouth hammer
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    who is the best 4.5m or less defender?
    Clyne? Williamson?
    any suggestions?
    already have chester and gabbidon.

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    1. Vague88
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ward

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  12. It’s A Joke
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    A) Carzola, Sterling, Williamson (with a slice of benched Dzeko)
    B) Ozil, Sterling and a benched Chamach (with a portion of Collocini in defense)

    My concern is Ozil will be benched

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i think ozil will be benched against cardiff, so A

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    2. Holy See
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Think he might get a rest v Cardiff. Should be the easier fixture.

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  13. MattysFantasyFooty
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    17 points from 4 Yeaaa boy 🙂 but only able to play 10 this week 🙁

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  14. Lloyd Xmas
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Bonus added

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Not to my team 🙁

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      1. Podge
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Just makes my Evra fail even worse 🙁

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    2. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Thank you Jevans! 😎

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    3. BONZ
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Rooney?? LOL

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      1. Lloyd Xmas
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        LOL at ?

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  15. Paulo
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    What a wonderful end to 2013.

    Rooney (c)

    Yaya Toure (Vc)

    Never happened in my fantasy career, a double captain double zero
    Anyone else in the same boat?

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    1. Holy See
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Many I reckon. Good few with Negredo (c) too.

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    2. MCH
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yikes! Sure guess its only been a couple of seasons since it was possible. Would have happened many a time otherwise.

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      1. the axolotl
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        walcott and rvp earlier this season, both unexpected.

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    3. Captain Shirokov
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Many

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    4. Red Viper
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      happened earlier this season to one of my ML rivals, Wally(c) Van Persie(vc) it was for him

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      1. Paulo
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I guess I might write this gameweek off and hope for better things 2014!

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  16. Bridge
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Repost...thanks for feedback 😀

    Hello chaps, I'm after some random betting advice...I stuck £12.50 on Villa/Cardiff draws, and Man City, Leicester and Spurs wins. If Leicester (home to Bolton, 8/11) and Spurs (home to Stoke, 8/15) win, i'll get £379 returns.

    I'm keen on hedging my bets, and I'm also going to the Spurs-Stoke game. What would you do?

    A) Nothing, hope for the two bankers to win
    B) Lump seperate bits on both Leicester and Stoke
    C) Wait until half-time Leicester (15:45) and, if they are winning, lump, say, £79 on Stoke win or draw (returns of £200).
    D) Something else...

    Cheers!

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    1. MCH
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If there was just one leg left I might lay it off but not with two. A but if you really want to do something then C.

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      1. Bridge
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks, I think you hit the nail on the head. Fingers crossed Leicester get a result.

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    2. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      C. In play betting and a calculator close to hand!

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      1. Bridge
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks. Trouble is, i'm going to be at the game. I've never been to WHL but if it's anything like most other grounds i've been to, getting data connectivity is going to be a pain.

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  17. Scottys Army
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    3 baps

    allez

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    1. MJ6987
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      0 here!

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  18. mental
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Cabaye or sterling ?instead of ramsey(got him at 5.6) or brady?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Cabaye

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  19. Birdman Transfer
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    My cup opponent:

    Started Sturridge, Aguero, and Zabaleta (with 7 points coming off the bench).
    Captained Petr Cech.
    Has made two sets of transfers this season, 5 in week 8, and 3 in week 12 (neither were wildcards).
    Still has 7 (active) to play
    Very well may outscore me and advance.

    He currently leads 1(+7 subs) from 3 to my 10(-4 hit) from 5. A thrilling competition indeed.

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  20. Demí
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Has Smartypants done his thing?

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yeh last page someone linked it

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Stickies

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers

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      2. Woy of the Wovers
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Is that a red today with 9pts? Hard to tell.

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  21. beric
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I got 8 points, hoping for a green

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Smarty pants says yes!

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Nice

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'm hoping 6 with no hit is good enough

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Shouldn't be a bad red anyway, I still have suarez(c) so hoping for a decent week

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah I've got 7 left to go including Suarez(c) so it could still be a good week.

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  22. Podge
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Can we please have a do-over of this week, seriously it's beyond a joke !

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  23. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    9 points pre bonus 9 points after 😎

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      1 point pre, 1 point after.

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        eat my dust then 😉

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  24. Captain Shirokov
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    God dammit, was really hoping to turn my season around this week....

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    1. Lloyd Xmas
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Time yet.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Are you still here? 🙂

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I'm coming and going......

        Need something to get my mind off fpl

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Log off, watch a movie and have a drink.

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  25. BantamPhil
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Looking on here I reckon 10+ is an easy green

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Average is less.

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  26. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    1 for me. Burner.

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    1. Syd.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A slow Burner.....

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  27. Podge
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Plenty of blue/grey arrows this week I suppose 🙂

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  28. BONZ
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Those Manchester bonus points are also an absolute urine take!!

    This game sucks

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  29. TD Champ
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    With my bench being tossed on the field this gameweek, i hope that the Stamford Bridge clash tomorrow will be a game filled with goals.

    Without Suarez scoring

    As i have Walcott VC (rooney (c))

    Damn

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  30. Epic Fail
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    4 players on the same team all getting 3 baps each is ridiculous. Especially as I don't own any of those players.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i love the baps system

      evra owner here

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