World Cup 2014

World Cup 2014 – Analysing the FIFA McDonald’s Rules

After weeks of deliberating and a couple of false starts, the official FIFA McDonald’s game was rolled out a couple of days ago. A popular choice amongst Fantasy managers for the previous World Cup and Euro 2012, you can find an excellent overview of the basics provided by Bonz in his recent community submission:

With those principles covered, we’ll spend some time in this guide to try and shed some light on the more contentious issues surrounding the rules, suggesting how this might shape the final tweaks in our selection strategy.

The Ruleset

Not for the first time with a Fantasy game based on an international tournament – confusion reigns. While FIFA have revisited their rules laid out when the game initially launched, tweaking the scoring for “Balls Recovered” and adding further detail to how transfers work, in both cases we’re still lacking clarity.

Team Selection
Thankfully, the biggest area of confusion has been ironed out. FIFA have now confirmed that players who have already featured can be swapped during the current round for any relevant player in a squad who has not yet taken to the pitch – essentially, players in a starting XI are not locked in, with the “stick or twist” feature now in play. FIFA has also confirmed that you can change captain as long as your new captain has not already played.

You can change every player in your line-up that has already played during the current round for any other relevant player in your squad that hasn’t already played. You can also change the captain as long as the new captain hasn’t already started to play. For example if you have placed NEYMAR on Your Pitch and he did not perform as well as you expected after the first match you can replace him with a forward from your bench that hasn’t already played during the current round. You would lose the points from NEYMAR for the round but the new player might get more points.

Scoring Points – The Recovered Ball Puzzle
We now move to how our squad actually scores points and an area of considerable confusion. FIFA’s game, as we’ve seen in the past, includes statistics such as “Balls Recovered” and “Balls Delivered into the Penalty Area” within their scoring matrix. Neither is defined in the rules.

We’ve contacted FIFA for clarification but, as it stands, remain in the dark as to how both these scoring methods are defined.

We have some familiarity with “Recovered Balls” or “Recoveries” courtesy of other games such as the Champions League affair and via OPTA’s data definition. The latter states the following:

“This is where a player wins back the ball when it has gone loose or where the ball has been played directly to him.”

This definition created the following top ten players for Recoveries from last season’s Premier League season.

PlayerTeamMinutes PlayedRecoveriesMins/Per Recovery
CameronSTO347120916.61
Ward (Joel)CPL341919917.18
ColemanEVE340218718.19
KoscielnyARS287417616.33
ShawSOT314717517.98
IvanovicCHE335916819.99
SkrtelLIV339116520.55
FonteSOT336016420.49
SagnaARS322116319.76
LovrenSOT294016118.26

However, when we compare this to data from the last World Cup Fantasy game in 2010 (credit to Billy Gilmore’s recent Hot Topic), there’s every indication that the OPTA definition is not the one likely to be used in the FIFA game. Here’s a table listing the top players from that World Cup, ranked by minutes per “Recovered Ball”.

PlayerCountryAppearancesMinutes PlayedRB per gameMins per RB
CoentraoPortugal43603.3327.00
BougherraAlgeria32702.6733.75
ChavezHonduras32702.3338.57
IzaguirreHonduras21802.0039.00
PantsilSouth Africa55102.0045.00
GrichtingSwitzerland32702.0045.00
OnyewuUSA21701.6754.00
R CostaPortugal21791.6056.25
DemelIvory Coast21801.5760.00
ShittuNigeria32701.5060.00

In all cases, the minutes per Recovery, or “Recovered Balls” were far greater in the FIFA data – suggesting that this method of scoring may not be as significant as we imagine. Indeed, with all players now having to earn two recovered balls to score a single point, we should, perhaps, show caution here.

Having said that, we have to presume that FIFA have done some modeling and that this has influenced their player pricing. Certainly it appears that defensive stats – either Recovered Balls or Blocks, have played some part in how they have produced their pricing.

Notably players like Omar Gonzalez and Geoff Cameron both of USA (5.0), are relatively high priced, presumably because, in their case, Recovered Balls and Blocks are expected to be a factor. As we see above, Cameron ranked very highly for recovered balls in the Premier League last season, while Gonzalez, a formidable, towering figure in the American defence, is presumably consider a likely consistent barrier for shots on goal.

The lack of a clear definition makes the effectiveness of Recovered Balls a mystery to us. The player pricing in the game pushes us towards cheap defenders from unfancied sides, in hope that Recovered Balls and Blocks can subsidise the inevitable lack of clean sheets. Right now, it’s not known if this strategy will pay off but, giving the aggressive price list – we’ve little option but to adopt this approach, at least to some extent.

Interestingly, Gary Medel of Chile, a player who normally plies his trade in midfield, is priced at 6.5 in the game, making him by far the most expensive Chilean defender. Presumably because FIFA have based this price on his performances in the Premier League where he made 206 Recoveries and 12 Blocks. He’s likely to be deployed at centre-back for his nation in the tournament: it’s hard to say whether that will enable him to justify his price tag.

We can further speculate on Phillip Lahm and Cesar Azpilicueta. Both are defined as midfielders in the FIFA game but are set to be deployed at full-back. Again, it’s unclear whether this misclassification will help their cause. It should be noted that, as of this evening, FIFA changed their rules meaning that midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls, rather than the original one, to earn a point.

Delivered Balls
Scoring from attacking actions is no better defined. The game states that all players earn a point for every two balls delivered into the penalty area. Again, there’s no clear definition of this but we have to presume that this includes crosses from wide positions and passes into the box. Similarly, we have to presume that, in both cases, these have to be successful, eg: they have to find team-mates. Finally, we can presume that dead-ball deliveries count.

In all cases we’re speculating and making assumptions because there is no clear definition. Again though, we have to accept that FIFA have modeled this scoring and that this has influence the player price list. Certainly, with Andres Iniesta valued at 8.5 – the top priced midfielder – there’s a suggestion that completed passes into the opposing box will be a strong factor.

Once more, the aggressive pricing has forced our hand to some degree when it comes to our midfield choice. We are drawn towards a proportion of cheaper, defensively-minded midfield options from the lesser sides – hoping that Recovered Balls and Blocks play their part. However, set-piece delivery, crosses and completed passes in the attacking third also have to be considered. This could make a player like Steven Gerrard, an individual who ticks both defensive and attacking boxes, a key figure. A price of 7.5 would certainly suggest that FIFA expect him to score strongly.

With set-pieces a likely factor, you should know that we’ve recently updated our set-piece table to list those players who are likely to be on dead-ball delivery for their respective sides.

In conclusion, the McDonald’s backed FIFA game has already proved a frustrating affair that lacks clarity and has us Fantasy Managers embarking on the tournament with so many unanswered questions. We’ve fired this issues to FIFA in hope we’ll get some clarity and, if it arrives, we’ll be sure to update you before Thursday’s deadline. For now though, the official game remains as clear as Ronald McDonald’s conscience. A real shame.

The Fantasy Football Scout League

Despite the issues, the official FIFA game remains a popular pursuit around these parts. We’ve set up an official FFS league which you can join by clicking this link.

*Edit*
Please note that this article was edited from the first draft after FIFA updated their rules on Wednesday evening, just 24-hours before deadline. As mentioned in the article, according to the new edited published rules, midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls rather than one, to earn a point.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

1,183 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Reedy
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    Well so much for the players being priced according to expected returns...they're still writing the effing rules! Sod this, start again - autocomplete.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Errr - what has happened???

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      1. Reedy
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        Another change to the rules. Now midfielders also need 2 RBs for every point.

        I had Gerrard, Pirlo, Lahm and Alonso! 😆 Think I'll scrap the lot...

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Ah. That's OK - I knew that was coming! 😉

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          1. Root
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            That's OK? Are you insane? It's not OK.

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          2. Reedy
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            Anything else we ought to know? 🙂 Not that it matters...they'll still be moving the goalposts when the games underway.

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  2. Mr Sarcastic
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    Next rule change - my guess would go for save points

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    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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      Me thinks.... We get points onbuying menu's and a fat american wins it all without knowing the sport.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Ain't that the truth ... 😀

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  3. LewanGOALski
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    tempted to go with Gervinho over Lukaku.
    Especially that I already have 2 Belgians - Alderweireld and KDB - and they play on the last day.

    Thoughts on that ?

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  4. pundit of punts
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    Fox RMT please. 🙂

    Courtois
    Evra,Schaer,Kombarov
    Muller,Oscar,KDB,James Rodrigues
    Sanchez(c),Benzema,Messi

    Itandje,De Sciglio,Bentaleb,Kolasinac

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    1. LOCO ABREU
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      good team bar bentaleb. when are you using your wc in fox?

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      1. pundit of punts
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        80k in the bank.

        Could upgrade Bentaleb>125k mid.

        Next round Benzema+Sanchez>neymar+RVP

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    2. Bubz
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      Beautiful. But I would be pretty terrified at the lack of Brazil

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      1. pundit of punts
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        Oscar in there.

        Neymar coming in for the next gw. Look above.

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    3. Big Man
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      Is it a good idea to have a deep bench with solid players all around, or some great players and then crap players on the bench?

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      1. pundit of punts
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        I've gone for the second approach. 2 FTs every round gives you the luxury to bring the heavy hitters for that round of fixtures and you get a WC after the group stages anyway.

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  5. toby404
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    After many failures:

    4-4-2

    Cillessen (Karnezis, Mbolhi)
    Ramos, Evra, Von Bergen, Rojo (Durm, Mesbah, Montazeri)
    Gerrard, Di Maria, Valbuena, James Rodriguez (De Bruyne, Bentaleb, Palacios, Rahmani)
    RVP, Neymar (Messi, Heydari, Martinez)

    Trying to get my head round the rules - I feel Messi must start on the bench because he plays after the other two? Feels very dodgy

    Would a switch to a 3-4-3 and a shift of funds from defenders to forwards be a good way out of this dilemma?

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    1. toby404
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      *thanks

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  6. gford33
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    for a starting front 6 woud it be stupid to go di maria/messi oscar/neymar kdb/hazard?

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    1. Optimus.
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      Not if you think they will do well

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  7. Jereme Halliday
    • 10 Years
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    Shame

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    1. Conrad.
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      my muller loves it 🙂

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  8. Bubz
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    Pogba or Valbuena money no object? (Mirror)

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    1. Engall7
      • 10 Years
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      Valbuena

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  9. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 11 Years
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    Is Pogba worth the extra over Valbuena?

    Is Alexis worth the extra over Lukaku/Vargas/Giroud?

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    1. Parm
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      Not any more.

      Just about.

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  10. Thomass
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    @JuanCarlos and Loco can you both out your team in the thing and also check your mails thank you!

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    1. LOCO ABREU
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      team already there. no mails!

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      1. Thomass
        • 12 Years
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        Mailed you's all

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  11. LOCO ABREU
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    valdes worth the risk?

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    1. patshaw
      • 13 Years
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      Hola Loco!

      Ive just went with him. Colombian group seems easier enough to risk it.

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      1. LOCO ABREU
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        Tempted but no tranfers during group stage then! Thanks!

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  12. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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    is lukaku fit?

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    1. Pinturicchio
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      Reportedly, yes.

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    2. Bubz
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      Yes

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    3. r0nh
      • 13 Years
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      Not my type.

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  13. JWilson3
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Is Zuniga nailed-on for Colombia? Saw that Cuadrado could play at full-back

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  14. Bubz
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    Valbuena or De Bruyne? Now that's a toughie.

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
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      Both for me

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
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        And for me.

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        1. Bubz
          • 11 Years
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          This is the Mirror game I am referring to. You have both in that? Do you have a favourite?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            • 14 Years
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            No, because Müller is a mid. De Bruyne.

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  15. r0nh
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    Thank God the WC starts tomorrow!!

    Now when people ask me what I did last night, I can pretend I was actually doing something, watching the WC.

    At least it gives the impression that I am not just sitting in my room, all alone.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
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      Awww ... 😥 😉

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
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      x

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  16. King Kohli
    • 12 Years
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    Chances of Vidal playing vs Australia?

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    1. Conrad.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      75%? i'm not sure, and won't take the risk. esp when i can get Electric Sanchez in there.

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    2. d1sable
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      Slim

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  17. HeartOfTheCity
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    The McDs Rule changes:

    First we all wanted to play 10 at the back for recovered balls, only to find out they don't use same definition of RB stay based on 2010 scores.
    Focus shifted to GKs, with 6 pts for cs vs only 4 for defenders and 1pt save (for time being). GKs cs now changed to 4pts.
    So we moved on to midfielders, who still were slated to get 1 pt for ea RB vs defenders who got 1 pt for every 2 already diluted RBs. Now that has changed to same as well.
    So lets go full circle and move our attention to forwards. They score the most goals. And unique to the game their goals are as valuable as any other position! So load up with 5 good choices and use your subs to pick best scoring 3.....

    Until McDs changes rule tomorrow morning before kick off 🙂

    By the way what was the rule changed during game people speak of?

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  18. rubenmateo
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    How much will "blocked shots" impact scoring? I saw reports from 2010 that John Terry at some point led the World Cup with 8 blocked shots. At 2 points per block, that's pretty big. Are there full blocked shots stats from 2010 anywhere?

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    1. T1P
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      That's true lets all get JT in our teams asap

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      1. rubenmateo
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Obviously I meant JT for perspective. If a defender can get 2 blocks per game, that would seem to tip the scales a bit.

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        1. The Colonel
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Had a look at blocked shots for last season's EPL. Top of the scale was Ashley Williams averaging 1.1 BS per game.

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  19. b3- bish bash bosh
    • 13 Years
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    guys whats the general thinking behind whos gonna get top scorer around here?

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    1. theloveburglar
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      higuain

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  20. Engall7
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Higuain, Fred or Dzecko ?

    Vargas, Bacca or Griezzmann ?

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  21. Beautiful Game
    • 12 Years
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    Will Schurrle start for Germany regardless of the formation???

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Not necessarily, no. Sorry.

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    2. pundit of punts
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      Not nailed on mate.

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  22. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 11 Years
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    Best defenders for £4.5m or less?

    Got Rojo

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Kombarov and Durm, imo.

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate

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    2. Batigol9
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Guardado (OOP as a winger/wingback), Holebas

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  23. d1sable
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    Seriously think im just going casual mode on this McD game and picking 11 players for goals no subbing either, the game does not warrant my attention.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Toys out the pram already? 😉

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      1. d1sable
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        10 years, 5 months ago

        They started outside now i have toe punted them across the street.

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        1. The Sarjeant
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          😆

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    2. The Sarjeant
      • 11 Years
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      This.

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  24. anish10
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    no german players - too much of a risk?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Yes.

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  25. Total Foot 5
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    World Cup Fantasy: hi. what's the best fantasy world cup most here playing? thnx.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
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      The answer to your questions are contradictory.

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      1. Total Foot 5
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        doos contradictory in what sense? Just asking what Fantasy world cup game most r playing since i have not been around to see which one most here are playing.

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    2. T1P
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Most are playing McDonalds - it's definitely not the best

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      1. Total Foot 5
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        Top thnx.

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      2. Total Foot 5
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Top which one do u rckon is the best? im already playing locally here in Brasil a Brasilian one but its in portuguese by ESPN Brasil.

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        1. T1P
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          fox australia

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          1. Total Foot 5
            • 11 Years
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            Top thnx. u got the link? the one im playing here in brasil is just for results

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 14 Years
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          The Mirror, by a country mile.

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      3. Total Foot 5
        • 11 Years
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        Top u got the name of the of the league (mayb this Fantasy F Scout?) and passcode to join into the MCdonads?thnx

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  26. The 12th Man
    • 11 Years
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    Feedback on this McDonalds team please

    Cillessen ( Karnezis, Mohammed)
    Evra, Rojo,Guardado( Alderweireld, Kombarov,1m,1m)
    J.Rodriguez,Di Maria, Valbuena, Misimovic ( KDB, Bentaleb, J Palacios, 1m)
    Messi, Neymar, Muller (Lukaku, 1m)

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  27. pundit of punts
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Any 1.5m playing defender?

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    1. Beautiful Game
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      check mail

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  28. The Sarjeant
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    On the One Show earlier, there was a guy who had all of the Panini sticker albums from the World Cups, and all of them were complete, apart from the first one which had 5 stickers missing. If it was complete the collection would be valued at £4,000 😯

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    1. Dr Dream
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I have mine from 1970...more than five missing though

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 11 Years
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        If the 1970 was complete it would be valued at £2,000!

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        1. Dr Dream
          • 12 Years
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          Yeah I know..I have maybe 20 missing and it's a bit dog eared but anyway it's mine and I won't be selling it. I also have my ESSO coins from 1970...

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  29. leero9
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Casillas

    Dani Alves - Ramos - Marcelo - Jordi

    Pirlo - Maria - Marchisio - Barkley

    Neymar - Sturridge

    Only 3 teams will it backfire ?

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 11 Years
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      Don't like that team at all.

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      1. leero9
        • 10 Years
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        Considering Clean sheets for Spain and Brazil 😀

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    2. d1sable
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      Poor midfield except DiMaria.

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